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Israel and Leba-nin

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Songbird, Jul 12, 2006.

  1. DyePack

    DyePack New Member

    Cling to that all you want, asssniffer. The electoral votes went to the current president.

    And that includes Gore's home state. He couldn't even win in his own back yard.
     
  2. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    And we've done so well under President Bush's leadership. Jobs are down, inflation's up. But we get $300 back on our taxes, so all's good! ::)
     
  3. DyePack

    DyePack New Member

    I believe it was more than $300, BTW, if you're talking about the rebate of a few years ago.

    Since we're throwing out ad hominems, I'll just mention 6 out of 10 people didn't vote for Clinton in 1992.
     
  4. kingcreole

    kingcreole Active Member

    Which America was safer and a better place to live? The America under Clinton or the America under Dubya?

    Some of what has happened in Fredo's terms are not his fault. 9/11 would have happened regardless, and I truly believe that. And that would have started the many chain of events we see now. But we wouldn't be in Iraq, Russia wouldn't be so icy and our economy wouldn't be on the brink of a major downfall.
     
  5. DyePack

    DyePack New Member

    I guess John Kerry should have done a better job of making that point, shouldn't he?
     
  6. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    $300 for singles, $600 for marrieds filing jointly.

    Either way, it was $300 per adult in the household.

    And while about 6 of 10 didn't much care for Clinton in 1992 . . . more than 6 in 10 approved of his presidency when he left office.

    In other words, his performance won them over. That's about all any president can hope for, to be more popular when he leaves than when he gets in.

    Kind of the opposite that we've seen from September 2001 (90% approval) to today (37% approval).
     
  7. DyePack

    DyePack New Member

    You're wrong about the $300. People filing as head of household got more than $300, and the only way to do that is to be the primary adult breadwinner.

    Lots of issue-shifting on your part after that. Conveniently, you shifted from whether Bush/Clinton won the majority of the popular vote to popularity ratings when Clinton left office.

    Saying all a president can hope for is to be more popular is somewhat shallow. I guess Reagan should have just stepped down right after the oath in 1985.
     
  8. kingcreole

    kingcreole Active Member

    Probably, but how about you answer my question? Better time/place to live - America under Clinton or America under Dubya? John Kerry and Al Gore have absolutely nothing to do with that question.
     

  9. You don't deserve any better.
    Go rub yourself raw some more and find a good steak to fall in love with.
     
  10. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Yes, the rebate for "head of household" was $500.

    And to qualify for "head of household", you have to meet requirements that likely strap you financially many times beyond the lousy $200 addition to the "single" rebate.

    So a "head of household" caring for a house full of people got $100 less of a rebate than a married couple with no children.

    Wow. Glad we cleared that up.
     

  11. That's why the economy's booming.
     
  12. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Some numbers to ponder:

    In 2004 (the last year a detailed report is available), the United States had 4.2% growth.

    Pretty robust, eh?

    The top 1% saw their personal wealth rise, on average, more than 12%.

    The other 99% saw their personal wealth rise, on average, 1.2%. Taking inflation into account, they are going backward.
     
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