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It's a peace loving religion, 'cept for the 5,000 women killed annually

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by poindexter, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    The definition keeps changing. So now I am a religionist. Even though according to Bubbler, the definition of a racist includes "assum[ing] that another religion is superior to another." I'll wait to see that post..

    Now I am a racist. Or a religionist, because, I guess, I have never started a thread about any other religion. Except I have posted about the Roman Catholic Archdioscese. I guess I am a racist, or a religionist, because I haven't been equal opportunity and started threads about every other religion out there.

    Wow.
     
  2. dog428

    dog428 Active Member

    The fact that this argument makes sense to you proves a lot.

    It's like saying because someone uses the N-word to refer to African-Americans, they're not really a racist if they also don't prop up the white race, too.
     
  3. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    That's a pretty deliberate obfuscation, poin, and you know it. (and "religionist" was tongue in cheek.

    I'll try to simplify further.

    You indict an entire group base on the actions of a few. That's racist, and way you slice it.
     
  4. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member


    Give me an example of this, since this is what I was called.

    The best so far is

    "It's a peace loving religion. Really. Honestly, it is."

    I'd love to know where I defined any one individual. And when I assumed that another religion is superior to another.

    Until then, I'll bow out.

    Have at it, liberals.
     
  5. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    Well, as others have mentioned, the whole construct of this thread is racist.

    "It's a peace loving religion, 'cept for the 5,000 women killed annually" is the thread title, that sets the table of facetiousness and painting a whole religion through the actions of its fringe. You make it clear from the start this ain't going to be a treatise on the multi-layered problems specific to the original topic you presented, it's yet another way to slap the Muslims around. And if you claim otherwise, you're the king of chutzpah.

    Then there's this ...
    I left your original context after the "it's a religion I have little taste for" in not to throw you a bone, but to point out your flawed reasoning. The beefs you have with Catholicism are legit, but the beefs go right to the heart of the Catholic hierarchy, some of the things you point out were swept under the carpet or even tactily approved by the powers-that-be. That is NOT the case with with your Turkish women, no arm of mainstream Islam is condoning this, so to paint those actions as the actions of an entire religion is, indeed, racist.

    And, finally, there's this ...

    You've caught their act? Racist generalization, as if an entire religion is defined by the nutfucks who warp it out of all recognition.

    Islam is not the fucking local Eagles Club, Poin, it's not like they get together to throw down some falafel and decide what text of the Koran to distort. When you say, "they," you obliterate the notion of individual will, and that alone is racist. You make ASSUMPTIONS that all people feel this way, when anyone with a shred of research and who approaches this topic with any sense of open-mindedness knows it's not that simple.

    I'm Catholic and I'd hate to be defined by the Catholic dickwads in Ireland and Croatia who kill non-Catholics in their idiotic reprisals and vendettas. Why is this any different?

    So sorry, the shoe fits.
     
  6. WHA73

    WHA73 Guest

    Re: It's a peace loving religion. Really, it is. Honestly.




    Is this thing on?? (tap, tap)....why no answer. Oh and for the record, I'm still waiting for nearly 6 months for the same answer to my question from a few of the women on this board.
     
  7. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Does this mean I'm not invited to the next SportsJournalists.com outing?

    Nice research bubbler. I'm not impressed by the Islam religion, what can I say. Your treatise was pretty impressive but I noticed you changed the parameters.


    Did I assume another religion is superior to another, as per your *original* definition? No, of course not, because I am not a fan of ANY organized religion. I think you assumed in 10 pages of posts that I was one of those posters who tried to push christianity over islam. I'm not a fan of islam. I'm not a fan of any religion. So by your original definition, I couldn't be a racist.

    But you kept plugging and finally found a definition that fit. Congrats, sit back and pop a cold one.
     
  8. The Islam religion?
     
  9. dog428

    dog428 Active Member

    The point you're missing, poin, is that it's not necessary to follow the degrading generalization of one group of people with a glowing opinion of another to qualify you as a racist.

    The fact that you have lumped all Islamic people together and took a great big shit on them is more than enough.
     
  10. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Like I say, you keep changing the definition. First it was assuming one religion was better than another. What happened to that definition? Does it not count anymore since I don't do that?

    And when I read:
    “This region is religious and it is impossible to be yourself if you are a woman,” she said. “You can either escape by leaving your family and moving to a town, or you can kill yourself.” I find it distasteful. So sue me.
     
  11. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    Hmm ... not buying it.

    The problem with your notion of not being a fan of any organized religion as that you started this thread on Islam specifically. If you wanted to make the point that all organized religions are flawed, start that thread, I'd probably be on your side.

    But that's not what you did here. And the facetiousness of the thread title and many of the responses contained within indicate that it was never your intent to do anything other generalize about Muslims and create the opportunity for the sub-moronic parrots who subsequently joined in to have a forum for their own racism.

    And WHA, just so you know, "sub-moron" is not Skeletor's out-of-wedlock villanous child from He-Man. The world is more complicated than constructs like good guys vs. bad guys and blowin' shit up vs. being allies. But you wouldn't know that, since your worldview apparently doesn't get past the advanced stages of graphic novels.

    And to answer your question, I'd be OK living anywhere where it's not obviously dangerous. That excludes as many non-Muslim countries as it does predominantly Muslim ones, and would include many Muslim nations.
     
  12. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Snicker. Yes, SportsJournalists.com has become pc.com. If you criticize one group, then all other groups must be criticized equally. Then we'll hand out trophies to all participants involved.

    Send me a pm for a link where another group of religious people are killing 5,000 of their young women annually, and I'll start the thread. Stat.
     
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