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It's Watch!... Neighborhood Watch. Not shoot.

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!, Mar 8, 2012.

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  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Why? Based on what?
     
  2. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    There's a higher chance of riots in Miami -- where Martin and his family lived and where the early outrage was focused -- than in Sanford, Orlando or surrounding communities.

    And the police ultimately settled this case when they made the early decision not to investigate it. With witness statements taken weeks after the fact and a total lack of physical evidence, the prosecution has nothing to work with.
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Why is there a high(er) chance of riots?

    Who would riot, and why?
     
  4. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    And that threat is exactly why he likely won't get a fair trial.
     
  5. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Because an unarmed black child was shot and killed by an armed, overly aggressive and unauthorized neighbor. And because the police didn't care enough to investigate it. That tends to upset people.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    What people? Who's going to riot?
     
  7. NoOneLikesUs

    NoOneLikesUs Active Member

    I don't know about that, but there are going to be a lot of angry people all over the country. The anger could mean riots. It could mean a twitter trending topic.
     
  8. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    I have a hard time imagining riots over this. However, the more dangerous issue, at least to the NRA, is that it gets legislators rethinking these shoot-first, ask-questions-later laws.

    Oh, who the hell am I kidding? Nobody reconsiders anything anymore.
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Misleading statements like yours do a disservice to the entire process. Either you did not follow story closely or you just do not care enough to learn the facts. Sure people are going to be upset if presented with the wrong information.

    Martin was not a "child" It would be more accurate to say he was a "teenager"

    Zimmerman was authorized to patrol neighborhood as watch captain.

    The Sanford police did investigate the case. If there is a fault it lies with the state prosecutor who chose not to arrest Zimmerman under the stand your ground laws.

    The only part of your statement that is accurate was to describe Zimmerman as "overly aggressive"
     
  10. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Bob, reading quickly some Florida law legal analysis which talks about the specific statutes and case law, under Florida law, a murder charge is absolutely possible and the prior stand by the prosecutor to forgo charging Zimmerman was absolutely a horrible decision.

    Under the Stand Your Ground law, the major change is that pre-trial, when facing a murder/criminal charge, the defendant can make a motion to the Court and ask for immunity for prosecution IF he/she can establish by a preponderance of the evidence (more likely than not) that he/she was standing his ground when he/she acted. (See Peterson v. State, 983 So. 2d 27, 29 (Fla. 1st DCA 2008)). If the judge does not dismiss, then the case goes to trial.
     
  11. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    After Zimmerman gets off, go to a street corner in an urban neighborhood and talk to a few people about the trail with this reasoning.

    Then, if you are still alive, come back to us with your report.
     
  12. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Boom, a teenager is a child until age 18. That's the widely accepted definition.

    Zimmerman was not authorized to shoot anybody or even to confront Martin.

    The Sanford police did not interview witnesses -- who were begging to give statements -- and did not drug-test Zimmerman and did not collect physical evidence.

    You really are off your game as far as grasp of the facts these days. Unless you're just trolling all over.
     
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