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It's Watch!... Neighborhood Watch. Not shoot.

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!, Mar 8, 2012.

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  1. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    I don't think there's any doubt of that.
     
  2. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    I think it depends on where you (not you, specifically, of course) see the story beginning. Some folks here seem to see the story beginning when Zimmerman put a gun in his pocket (or wherever the eff he was carrying it). If you start from there, the story unfolds with him being culpable for this death. If you start with it being Martin reacting to Zimmerman's presence/commands/threats, it unfolds logically in a different manner.

    I would be very surprised if Zimmerman gets convicted of anything here. Even if he's convicted, I'd be surprised if it sticks.

    I will say that it was very wise to keep him off the stand. Now there are, in essence, two voices missing ... his and Martin's. That definitely plays into the defense's hands, which is the way it's set up. A tragedy all the way 'round ... but one for which someone is criminally responsible? No, I can't go that far.
     
  3. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    I understand all that quite well. And I'm disappointed you think I've being passive-aggressive about it, because I'm not. As I said, he doesn't get on the stand, no big deal.

    I do not know if he is guilty or not. From what I've read, I don't think the state has gotten "beyond a reasonable shadow of doubt" on the murder charge.
     
  4. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    If he's not criminally responsible, then I would consider it a flaw in the laws.
     
  5. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    Not only whether the jury believes the defendant, but also whether the jury LIKES the defendant. If Zimmerman gets up there and comes off as an arrogant prick, that would harm the defense's case as well.
     
  6. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    I can tell where the chance of the latter is greater: President Obama's and Jesse Jackson's adopted home town.
     
  7. Humungus

    Humungus Member

    and bill murray's.
     
  8. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    Fuck it, let's just send up the Zag signal. Jay Cutler's, too!
     
  9. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    State Attorney has fired IT officer who testified about having concerns that the state did not hand over all evidence it was required to in this case.

    IT officer received a letter saying he was being fired for poor job performance, which seems a bit odd since he received a pay raise for meritorious service on May 16.

    I'm sure it's just a coincidence...

    http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2013-07-13/story/state-attorney-angela-corey-fires-information-techonology-director-who
     
  10. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    SANFORD, Fla. (AP) - Jurors reach verdict in murder trial of George Zimmerman.
     
  11. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    Get on with it already.
     
  12. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Not guilty.
     
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