It's Watch!... Neighborhood Watch. Not shoot.

Even when I was 17 and full of piss and vinegar, I probably would've just asked Zimmerman why the fuck he was following me and explained where the fuck I was going. I probably would've acted shitty and disrespectful, but I know for a fact I wouln't have tried to kick his ass and neither would any of my friends.

But I suppose you, Internet Tough Guy, consider it perfectly reasonable behavior to confront him and just start wailing on him?

 

If Zimmerman stayed in his car, I find any situation that would have resulted in a fight pretty far-fetched.

 

I'm glad we have full eyewitness accounts of what happened instead of bits and pieces.

 

I suppose you are also glad George Zimmerman, and by association Trayvon Martin, had their days in court and the case is settled.

 

Probably the ADHD. Bet his DVD collection consists mainly of action movies and crude comedies.

 

Here's the transcript of what was said after "OK, we don't need you to do that."


Zimmerman: OK.

911 dispatcher: Alright, sir, what is your name?

Zimmerman: George. He ran.

911 dispatcher: All right, George, what’s your last name?

Zimmerman: Zimmerman.

911 dispatcher: What’s the phone number you’re calling from?

Zimmerman: XXX-XXX-XXXX

911 dispatcher: All right, George, we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?

Zimmerman: Yeah.

911 dispatcher: All right, where are you going to meet with them at?

Zimmerman: Um, if they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse and, uh, straight past the clubhouse and make a left and then go past the mailboxes you’ll see my truck.

911 dispatcher: All right, what address are you parked in front of?

Zimmerman: Um, I don’t know. It’s a cut-through so I don’t know the address.

911 dispatcher: OK, do you live in the area?

Zimmerman: Yeah, yeah, I live here.

911 dispatcher: OK, what’s your apartment number?

Zimmerman: It’s a home. It’s 1950 – oh, crap, I don’t want to give it out – I don’t know where this kid is.





So if he's following Martin, why doesn't he know where he is?

 

Well it's hard to accept responsibility when you're six feet under, but I think this brings up an interesting point. Namely, the idea of this sort of self defense law empowers our fear on both sides of a conflict. It says in a desperate situation, there's a right to stand despite not knowing all the details. I look at it, and from a legal standpoint, young Mr. Martin was being followed by a man with a gun who saw him as a threat. Logically he could see that as a threat to his life and if he was on Zimmerman, battering him and saw the flash of a gun, he, under the same law that freed Mr. Zimmerman, would have been within his right to grab a brick and club him in the head.

So either way someone could be dead, and the other would have good legal standing to fight off the more serious charges.

I assume within the legal context, the verdict was correct. If you assume being armed and following someone is not any sort of instigation and flat-out, spur-of-the-moment fear is an ultimate justification for deadly force, it's right on. Of course history has shown laws don't have to be particularly just, and the legal system relies on it's own sort of standards, so unpleasant but necessary, others that create large-scale issues.

 

So Pierce is on the "losing side"? So does that mean you regard yourself as being on "the winning side" here?

Pretty damn sad how predictably clear the political lines have been drawn on this case. Right wingers are crowing today like this is their victory. Really, a case involving a kid being needlessly killed is one you're claiming for the W column?

 

In your scenario he murdered Trayvon from the car?

 

Self defense has been a reason for justifiable homicide since the beginning of time.

Why are people getting worked up about this?

 

How many of the 435 gun related deaths in Chicago last year is George Zimmerman responsible for?

GZ is a Pretty nice diversion for the Civil Rights Community, now they don't have to deal with why more African Americans are killed in American Cities by African Americans than are killed by whites in America plus are killed while in the Armed Forces.

 

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