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Point of Order · Apr 8, 2012

It was not an NRO column. It was for another site. They fired him because, they say, he was using his association with them to give him more cred. It's a close call, but the slavery-esque ending was probably the most offensive:

(13) In that pool of forty million, there are nonetheless many intelligent and well-socialized blacks. (I’ll use IWSB as an ad hoc abbreviation.) You should consciously seek opportunities to make friends with IWSBs. In addition to the ordinary pleasures of friendship, you will gain an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice.

(14) Be aware, however, that there is an issue of supply and demand here. Demand comes from organizations and businesses keen to display racial propriety by employing IWSBs, especially in positions at the interface with the general public—corporate sales reps, TV news presenters, press officers for government agencies, etc.—with corresponding depletion in less visible positions. There is also strong private demand from middle- and upper-class whites for personal bonds with IWSBs, for reasons given in the previous paragraph and also (next paragraph) as status markers.

(15) Unfortunately the demand is greater than the supply, so IWSBs are something of a luxury good, like antique furniture or corporate jets: boasted of by upper-class whites and wealthy organizations, coveted by the less prosperous. To be an IWSB in present-day US society is a height of felicity rarely before attained by any group of human beings in history. Try to curb your envy: it will be taken as prejudice (see paragraph 13).

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You don’t have to follow my version of the talk point for point; but if you are white or Asian and have kids, you owe it to them to give them some version of the talk. It will save them a lot of time and trouble spent figuring things out for themselves. It may save their lives.
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king cranium maximus IV · Apr 8, 2012

The fiend who set off the bomb does not have the sympathy of the white population in the South; in fact, he set back the cause of the white people there so dramatically as to raise the question whether in fact the explosion was the act of a provocateur - of a Communist, or of a crazed Negro. Some circumstantial evidence lends a hint of plausibility to that notion, especially the ten-minute fuse (surely a white man walking away form the church basement ten minutes earlier would have been noticed?). And let it be said that the convulsions that go on, and are bound to continue, have resulted from revolutionary assaults on the status quo, and a contempt for the law, which are traceable to the Supreme Court's manifest contempt for the settled traditions of Constitutional practice.
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- National Review, 1963

The NR has gradually replaced its old-guard racists with impotent, bloated fart-knockers like Jonah Goldberg, but it's still the same old crap.

Inky_Wretch · Apr 8, 2012

Arrests made in the Tulsa shootings.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/tulsa-oklahoma-men-arrested-shooting-spree/t/story?id=16096391

Greenhorn · Apr 8, 2012

Point of Order said:

It was not an NRO column. It was for another site. They fired him because, they say, he was using his association with them to give him more cred. It's a close call, but the slavery-esque ending was probably the most offensive:

(13) In that pool of forty million, there are nonetheless many intelligent and well-socialized blacks. (I’ll use IWSB as an ad hoc abbreviation.) You should consciously seek opportunities to make friends with IWSBs. In addition to the ordinary pleasures of friendship, you will gain an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice.

(14) Be aware, however, that there is an issue of supply and demand here. Demand comes from organizations and businesses keen to display racial propriety by employing IWSBs, especially in positions at the interface with the general public—corporate sales reps, TV news presenters, press officers for government agencies, etc.—with corresponding depletion in less visible positions. There is also strong private demand from middle- and upper-class whites for personal bonds with IWSBs, for reasons given in the previous paragraph and also (next paragraph) as status markers.

(15) Unfortunately the demand is greater than the supply, so IWSBs are something of a luxury good, like antique furniture or corporate jets: boasted of by upper-class whites and wealthy organizations, coveted by the less prosperous. To be an IWSB in present-day US society is a height of felicity rarely before attained by any group of human beings in history. Try to curb your envy: it will be taken as prejudice (see paragraph 13).

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You don’t have to follow my version of the talk point for point; but if you are white or Asian and have kids, you owe it to them to give them some version of the talk. It will save them a lot of time and trouble spent figuring things out for themselves. It may save their lives.
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I agree the ending was the most offensive part of a shockingly terrible "column." Apparently, he had a long, well-documented history of racist rantings.

Armchair_QB · Apr 8, 2012

NoOneLikesUs said:

Situation in Tulsa bears watching

TULSA, Okla. (AP) — Tulsa's black community was on edge Saturday after police said the same attacker or attackers were behind a series of shootings a day earlier that left three people dead and two more critically wounded.

Police are still waiting for the results of forensic tests, but investigators think the early Friday morning shootings are linked because they happened around the same time within a three-mile span and all five victims were out walking when they were shot.

Officer Jason Willingham said Saturday that police are searching for a white man driving a white pickup, which was spotted in the area of three of the shootings. At least two dozen officers are investigating the case, along with the FBI and U.S. Marshals Service, Willingham said.
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A white guy driving a white pick-up in a city in Oklahoma.

Yeah, that really narrows down the suspect list...

YankeeFan · Apr 8, 2012

Boom_70 said:

Azrael said:

NRO's Derbyshire sacked.

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/08/john-derbyshire-fired-article-african-americans?CMP=twt_gu
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The National Review Editors must have been sleeping that day when they let that column go.
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It didn't run in NR or on their website.

Boom_70 · Apr 8, 2012

YankeeFan said:

Boom_70 said:

Azrael said:

NRO's Derbyshire sacked.

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/08/john-derbyshire-fired-article-african-americans?CMP=twt_gu
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The National Review Editors must have been sleeping that day when they let that column go.
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It didn't run in NR or on their website.
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So why would NR fire him then?

Point of Order · Apr 8, 2012

Boom_70 said:

YankeeFan said:

Boom_70 said:

Azrael said:

NRO's Derbyshire sacked.

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/08/john-derbyshire-fired-article-african-americans?CMP=twt_gu
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The National Review Editors must have been sleeping that day when they let that column go.
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It didn't run in NR or on their website.
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So why would NR fire him then?
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Should they not have in your view?

Boom_70 · Apr 9, 2012

Point of Order said:

Boom_70 said:

YankeeFan said:

Boom_70 said:

Azrael said:

NRO's Derbyshire sacked.

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/08/john-derbyshire-fired-article-african-americans?CMP=twt_gu
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The National Review Editors must have been sleeping that day when they let that column go.
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It didn't run in NR or on their website.
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So why would NR fire him then?
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Should they not have in your view?
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I guess it depends. Did he have permission from NR to write for the other publication? Did NR provide guidelines for what should be written. As bad as it was, it just seems like one does not have to do with the other. Jones better hope that ESPN does not think like NR.

Some interesting analysis by The Atlantic. Check out the NR demographics. If they don't get some younger subscribers they will be out of business in a few years.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/04/how-john-derbyshire-perceived-racial-attitudes-at-national-review/255598/?google_editors_picks=true

king cranium maximus IV · Apr 9, 2012

Boom_70 said:

Point of Order said:

Boom_70 said:

YankeeFan said:

Boom_70 said:

Azrael said:

NRO's Derbyshire sacked.

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/08/john-derbyshire-fired-article-african-americans?CMP=twt_gu
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The National Review Editors must have been sleeping that day when they let that column go.
Click to expand...

It didn't run in NR or on their website.
Click to expand...

So why would NR fire him then?
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Should they not have in your view?
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I guess it depends. Did he have permission from NR to write for the other publication? Did NR provide guidelines for what should be written. As bad as it was, it just seems like one does not have to do with the other. Jones better hope that ESPN does not think like NR.

Some interesting analysis by The Atlantic. Check out the NR demographics. If they don't get some younger subscribers they will be out of business in a few years.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/04/how-john-derbyshire-perceived-racial-attitudes-at-national-review/255598/?google_editors_picks=true
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Eh, they'll still be propped up via wingnut welfare think tanks and the like. Same as usual.

YankeeFan · Apr 9, 2012

No Grand Jury investigation.

Azrael · Apr 9, 2012

Because the special prosecutor said she doesn't need one.

"Corey said the investigation into the case continues. The state attorney has maintained that a grand jury is not needed to file possible criminal charges against George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who killed the teen February 26."

www.cnn.com/2012/04/09/us/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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