Jaguars to partially abandon that hellhole Jacksonville

One of my uncles went to the Pentagon in 1986. He was pretty excited because his family were Skins fans. He asked if the Pentagon got any deals on the waiting list. They pretty much said sign up now and enjoy them when your grandkids go to college. Became a family running joke especially when his first grand kid was born. That kid is a junior in h.s. now. He posted last week on his daughter's fb page..."can't that boy graduate early? I am not getting any younger and neither is RgIII."

 

Lived. Moved from South Florida a year ago.

And you can't say "regardless of income."

To me, having a mortgage paid off in this industry's environment supersedes everything WRT lifestyle. I did it in South Florida (and pocketed $70,000 in housing difference when I moved). I could not have done it in SoCal. Or I don't think so, anyway.

Or to put it another way, if I happened to apply for and get the OC Register's soon-to-be-open copy editor's job, I would have to take out ANOTHER six-figure mortgage, even after selling my home here and putting down a $140,000 down payment. That's not my idea of "superior."

Other people's mileage may vary, however.

 

Regardless of income indeed, especially on the lowest end, where California's safety net is far more generous than Florida's.

You seem to be arguing almost exclusively in terms of homeownership. I'm arguing in terms of quality of life...albeit you are more likely to be able to afford to buy a home in a quality neighborhood at a lower income in Florida than in California, but in California other aspects of life (the weather, the people, recreational and cultural activities) are superior to Florida.

 

Eh, since this seems to be the argument... I'll take Florida over California most any day, although neither is at the top of my list of destinations.

As for ticket waiting lists, if you don't have to pay to get on one, the numbers are pretty irrelevant. No investment or commitment there. Just sort of a "call me when there's an opening and I'll see if I have the time and money."

 

The Redskins could reduce the capacity in order to raise prices and reduce game-day expenses. The Yankees went to a smaller stadium even though they drew great. You would think a team wouldn't do that, but it is counter intuitive that more money can be made with a smaller stadium. The tickets become more of a premium and that can also help you people have more money and will be more willing to buy $10 beers, jerseys, and go to expensive restaurants and bars in the stadium.

 

I may have missed it on the thread but when does Jacksonville's lease come up for renewal?

 

The Seahawks is 150 non refundable. The Vancouver Canucks is 200 non refundable. I can't imagine that teams don't charge, what would be the point?

 

2030 and the team would have to pay what's left -- right now it's $145 million -- to get out of it. There is an out clause if the team loses money one year and is below the average team revenue average for the next two years.

http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2011-11-30/story/jaguars-lease-makes-it-costly-leave-jacksonville-2030

 

Maybe by 2030 the Jags will be playing two home games in London, two home games in Los Angeles, two games at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium as the opening act for the Gators, and two in Jax so they don't have to break the lease.

 

This, from Grantland's "About Last Night" post this morning...

Jaguars running back Maurice Jones-Drew, in the midst of a holdout, now says he is open to a trade. "Seriously, have you ever tried to kill time in Jacksonville?" asked Jones-Drew in a special press conference. "I hope you like Applebee's, dude. I really f---ing hope you like Applebee's."

Big fan of Shane Ryan, who posts this column each morning when he's not away getting married.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/35216/about-last-night-strasburg-on-the-clock

 

They have a damn good Ruth's Chris Steakhouse in Jacksonville. I can't believe I'm defending Jacksonville, but there isn't a NFL city in the country without plenty of great restaurants. If Jones-Drew wants out, that's understandable, but playing the restaurant card is just stupid.