Jameis Winston in trouble? (This time for stealing crab legs?)

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no. I don't know how every Heisman voter thinks, I haven't suffered from frontal lobe trauma. I just figure they are as not as smart as the BBWAA voters and go from there.

 

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With the heyabbot and Marks of the world, I'd say race has a lot to do with it.

 

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no ones brought up race, only star athletes getting preferential treatment and sports journalists whose mouths are agape over a 19 year old who can set aside his possible criminal charges to lead his team to victory. And then bring up the fact that he's only 19, a kid with a bright future so let's not rush, 11 months, into judging him harshly. But let's make sure we infer what a slut and drunk the 19 old woman is, how old and mature she is and that she doesn't have an NFL career ahead of her.

 

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"Certitude" is hereby adopted as the Official Word of SportsJournalists.com.

 

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Reading this thread makes me think about the Duke lacrosse players who were accused of rape but cleared of wrongdoing -- and it makes me wonder whether certain people in this thread:

1. Believe that the only reason they got cleared was because they were from Duke.

2. Believe they were innocent, but would not have believed they were if they were members of the Duke basketball team.

3. Believe that, if four players on the current Duke football team were accused of rape, would automatically assume they are guilty and any decision not to file charges must only be because they are playing for the ACC title AND IT MUST BE TRUE, I KNOW IT'S TRUE, EVERY STAR ATHLETE ALWAYS GETS PROTECTED NO MATTER WHAT.

Seriously, some people made up their minds from the start simply because Winston (1) plays for a team contending for the BCS title and (2) is a contender for the Heisman. That's all that mattered to them.

 

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I'll be honest - what made me think there was something to it was that it took almost a year to get to the DA.

 

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If the police were honest and Winston was falsely accused from the beginning, wouldn't the police have handed this over to the State's Attorney immediately and held a press conference last January or February and openly stated that an investigation was conducted and no charges would be filed? Why wait besides hoping that it would go away?

Why would the police take affidavits from witnesses? Police never take affidavits, they take written statements or audio or audio-visual statements. The States Attorney puts witnesses before the Grand Jury and they are questioned under oath. Only defense attorney go out, obtain affidavits from witnesses and turn them over to the State's Attorney for exoneration or mitigation. Witnesses rarely prepare their own affidavits, attorneys prepare them and witnesses sign them. Winston never cooperated with police by providing a statement, which is his right. But the public is entitled to draw conclusions from that, just like taking the 5th in a civil case allows inferences to be drawn.

Why is a college football player young and naive but a female college student manipulative? It is his word versus hers but she did make a fairly contemporaneous report of the rape and she did not name Winston by name. This shows that she was not out to get a football player and make money. Didn't his lawyer initially deny any knowledge of the victim until DNA confirmed him as a sexual participant? Why deny it if it wasn't true unless you have something to hide? The police report was written by detectives and is never shown to witnesses whose statements appear in the report to confirm the accuracy. Police can put anything in the report.

 

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There is no inference to be drawn from Winston's silence is that he is following his lawyer's order, the same order any lawyer gives any client in the same situation. Read this week's New Yorker. There is a lengthy piece about the scourge of false confessions.

 

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About the really drunk part ... check the tox tests. She wasn't.

 

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There is no reason for the accused to ever talk to the police. Especially if you are innocent.

 

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She was 0.5. If she's a light weight, she very well could have been drunk. And she'd been stopped for a while.

 

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0.05. If she (or anyone else) was 0.5, she'd be dead.