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Jimmy Rollins: HOF?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Apr 4, 2016.

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  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    An opinion with utterly no basis is not worth the paper (or pixels) it is printed on.
     
  2. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    If you say so, But I'll resist any attempt to equate what is bandied about here with one's overall worth as a journalist.

    In other words, you both might, just might, be taking yourself a little too seriously here.
     
  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    This has nothing to do with a message board. Stop trivializing it. If you have an opinion, you should want to be able to defend it with something more substantial than, "Because."

    Why would you chose willful ignorance? I don't get it.
     
  4. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    It IS trivial, Dick.

    It IS trivial.

    But I understand the urge to think your words are more important than they are. Hey, I ran into someone like that in a coffee shop just the other day.

    And Dick? It's OK not to get something. I respect your admission that you don't get stuff.
     
  5. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    I admire the effort to convert the dumb, but you're just not going to win with people who cast votes for Brad Radke and Armando Benitez.
     
  6. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Yes. There is that. And let's not forget Jim DeShaies.

    But they had to pass somebody's eye test!
     
  7. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    The way I see it, whoever votes for Kevin Appier to the Hall of Fame should have to write a justification for it, and submit to full public shaming.
     
  8. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    I've said that too, but damned if this thread isn't leading me toward the other side of that argument.
     
  9. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Paging Pedro Gomez
     
  10. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Or Gomez Addams.
     
  11. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    The solution is a simple one. Take the vote out of the hands of these children, and form a college of voters that includes former players, managers, coaches, executives and historians, and behind that pack, writers.
    The BBWAA has done enough damage.
    At the same time, we also don't need a fuckstain like Tim Marchman sullying an already broken process by buying a vote.
     
  12. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    What undoubtedly offends some sportswriters or fans is the notion that statistics should supplant memory almost altogether and somehow convince fans, writers, fellows players, etc., that they were actually witnessing or playing with a Hall of Famer and just didn't realize it. This isn't proving the presence of DNA at a crime scene. It's proving whether people thought someone rose to a particular level of fame and greatness, which is inherently subjective. I would have voted for Blyleven, but Raines wouldn't get my vote. When you spend two-thirds of a long-ass career as a mid-tier guy, you're not a Hall of Famer to me.
     
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