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Jimmy Rollins: HOF?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Apr 4, 2016.

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  1. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Whitaker deserved much more consideration than he got, in my opinion. He was 1/2 of the best double-play combination I ever saw. And his hitting in an era of weak-hitting second basemen was great. He fell short of the Hall of Fame, in my opinion, but man was he a good baseball player -- made even better by the fact that he just seemed likable. If there was a Hall of Fame for playing the game beautifully, he would have been been in the first class. Everything he did in the field and at the plate just looked graceful.
     
    The Big Ragu, Apr 5, 2016
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  2. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Yes, eye test is enough for me. Bobby Grivh was a solid 10- to 15-year major leaguer. Nothing more. Jimmy Rollins, the same. Lou Whitaker, the same.
     
    jr/shotglass, Apr 5, 2016
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  3. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Alan Trammel also deserved better from the voters.
     
    Guy_Incognito, Apr 5, 2016
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  4. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Thank you.
     
    jr/shotglass, Apr 5, 2016
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  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    1981 was a strike year. Bobby Grich, a second baseman, led the American League with 22 home runs and a .543 slugging percentage. He had a .921 OPS, second only to Dwight Evans (.937). He slashed .304/.378/.543.

    He finished 14th (!) in the MVP voting.

    Here are some of the hitters who finished ahead of him, with their slash lines:

    Rickey Henderson .319/.408/.437 (56 SBs) (legit)
    Dwight Evans .296/.415/.522 (legit)
    Tony Armas .261/.294/.480 (LOL)
    Eddie Murray .294/.360/.534 (LOL)
    Carney Lansford .336/.389/.439 (LOL)
    Dave Winfield .294/.360/.464 (LOL)
    Cecil Cooper .320/.363/.495 (LOL)
    Tom Paciorek .326/.379/.509 (LOL)
    Dwayne Murphy .251/.369/.408 (Double LOL)
    Kirk Gibson .328/.369/.479 (LOL)
     
    Dick Whitman, Apr 5, 2016
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  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I love that jr/shotglass "liked" this post. LOL.
     
    Dick Whitman, Apr 5, 2016
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  7. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Dwight Evans, the same.
     
    jr/shotglass, Apr 5, 2016
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  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    What does the eye test tell you about Bobby Grich that counteracts the fact that he got on base and hit for extra bases at a rate 25 percent better than his peers over the course of his 17-year major league career?
     
    Dick Whitman, Apr 5, 2016
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  9. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Here's a tip. Don't look for reasons to put someone in Cooperstown. Look for reasons not to. The HOF isn't supposed to be easy.
     
    jr/shotglass, Apr 5, 2016
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  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    What does the eye test tell you about Bobby Grich that counteracts the fact that he got on base and hit for extra bases at a rate 25 percent better than his peers over the course of his 17-year major league career?
     
    Dick Whitman, Apr 5, 2016
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  11. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Copy and paste does not make your point, counselor.

    Hey, what about Brady Anderson? He hit 50 homers once!
     
    jr/shotglass, Apr 5, 2016
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  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    What does the eye test tell you about Bobby Grich that counteracts the fact that he got on base and hit for extra bases at a rate 25 percent better than his peers over the course of his 17-year major league career?
     
    Dick Whitman, Apr 5, 2016
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