Jones gives good blog?

Versatile · Mar 31, 2012

Lugnuts said:

I wanted to post yesterday that I wish the Gawker thing hadn't happened because I'd have loved to have gone toe to toe with Jones on that blog post. Rambling though it may have been, I think Dr. Logan What'sHerName gets close to a few of the things I thought.

What SJ longtimer among us could read that blog post and not be reminded of the Frankenberry Crunch joke (or something of the sort)? Which was very funny... But being a woman and a wife and mom... My thoughts reading the Esquire post? What will his wife think? I'd rip him a new one.

And admittedly I'm one of the minions Boom talks about. Proudly!
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I assumed Jones talked with his wife before even writing the piece, much less letting it be published. That said, it was little more than a trite men's magazine piece. It's nothing Jones is flaunting as his finest thought in the world. It really means nothing. It's not lazy or disingenuous, exactly, because it fits the goal of that kind of mini-essay. It's exactly what Esquire wants for a sex-driven issue.

Should you take offense as a woman (and a wife and a mom)? It's your right. If you've had sex with Jones, slap him the next time you see him. He's earned it. But let's not pretend this was anything more than a 300-word fluff piece.

The Big Ragu · Mar 31, 2012

YeTodd said:

Well, I might as well register just to say this:

I've considered John Cook a really good writer. In fact, I would consider an article he wrote back in 2007 for Radar Magazine one of the best magazine articles I've ever read. Whenever I find a good magazine article, I have a habit of ripping it out for later perusal. The funny thing is, if you'd asked me one year ago, "YeTodd, who exactly wrote that Radar article you were a big fan of?" I'd have had no idea. I didn't make the connection that John Cook (of Gawker) wrote that article until just recently.

So, yesterday I found this message board because Cook linked to it. When I first clicked on Cook's link, I assumed, "Ha, some hack sportswriter probably got owned by Cook and is all upset about it! This will be some good Fire-Jay-Morgan style hilarity!" I didn't know who "Chris Jones" was until yesterday.

When I clicked on this link, I was disappointed to find it didn't contain FJM-style hilarity. (It wasn't even about sports!) But, since I have a semi-personal grudge against Gawker, I was intrigued by the attempts to denigrate it, and kept on reading. And when somebody mentioned that "Chris Jones" was the backpage writer for ESPN Magazine, I thought: "Oh. Him!? I ripped out one of his articles half-an-hour ago!"

That's a pretty big coincidence. I don't make a habit of ripping out articles very often.

So...I realize this is a terse post about a complicated issue.

My point is, here's a message for Chris Jones: Don't assume that what's being written in this thread DOESN'T have an effect.
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YeTodd, John Cook's great article for Radar in 2007 notwithstanding, how do you consider his work nowadays -- when he works for an entity that encourages its writers to post whatever shit they think will get the most clicks? How would you characterize the difference between that great effort in 2007 and what he does today?

The Big Ragu · Mar 31, 2012

I just clicked on that Huffington Post link. While I didn't think a ton of the original Esquire piece by Jones, that drivel by Dr. Logan Levkoff was about the most humorless thing I have read in a long time. At least I got what Esquire was trying to do. It wasn't taking itself that seriously.

Out of curiousity, how does one become a "sexologist"? If it's anything like becoming a certified flight instructor, I am sure I don't have enough hours in the air, but I'm having a mid-life crisis and that sounds like the kind of career change worth looking into.

Versatile · Mar 31, 2012

The Big Ragu said:

Out of curiousity, how does one become a "sexologist"? If it's anything like becoming a certified flight instructor, I am sure I don't have enough hours in the air, but I'm having a mid-life crisis and that sound like the kind of career change worth looking into.
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Brilliance.

dooley_womack1 · Mar 31, 2012

I think my sperm leans more toward the hydrochloric acid side of things

pseudo · Mar 31, 2012

YeTodd said:

Well, I might as well register just to say this:

I've considered John Cook a really good writer. In fact, I would consider an article he wrote back in 2007 for Radar Magazine one of the best magazine articles I've ever read. Whenever I find a good magazine article, I have a habit of ripping it out for later perusal. The funny thing is, if you'd asked me one year ago, "YeTodd, who exactly wrote that Radar article you were a big fan of?" I'd have had no idea. I didn't make the connection that John Cook (of Gawker) wrote that article until just recently.

So, yesterday I found this message board because Cook linked to it. When I first clicked on Cook's link, I assumed, "Ha, some hack sportswriter probably got owned by Cook and is all upset about it! This will be some good Fire-Jay-Morgan style hilarity!" I didn't know who "Chris Jones" was until yesterday.

When I clicked on this link, I was disappointed to find it didn't contain FJM-style hilarity. (It wasn't even about sports!) But, since I have a semi-personal grudge against Gawker, I was intrigued by the attempts to denigrate it, and kept on reading. And when somebody mentioned that "Chris Jones" was the backpage writer for ESPN Magazine, I thought: "Oh. Him!? I ripped out one of his articles half-an-hour ago!"

That's a pretty big coincidence. I don't make a habit of ripping out articles very often.

So...I realize this is a terse post about a complicated issue.

My point is, here's a message for Chris Jones: Don't assume that what's being written in this thread DOESN'T have an effect.
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You don't know Jones?

Here: http://www.esquire.com/features/things-that-carried-him

And here: http://www.esquire.com/features/ESQ0704-JULY_ASTRO

Incidentally, those are the stories which won the National Magazine Award.

Also, here: http://www.esquire.com/features/zanesville-0312

And here: http://www.esquire.com/print-this/roger-ebert-0310

And here: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6958966/the-survivor

YGBFKM · Mar 31, 2012

Not defending anyone, but it's a really big world out there. Knowing Chris Jones doesn't necessarily make one informed about anything in particular other than magazine writing.

Versatile · Mar 31, 2012

dooley_womack1 said:

I think my sperm leans more toward the hydrochloric acid side of things
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Mine's like chloroform. One way or another, someone's falling asleep.

pseudo · Mar 31, 2012

YGBFKM said:

Not defending anyone, but it's a really big world out there. Knowing Chris Jones doesn't necessarily make one informed about anything in particular other than magazine writing.
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No defense necessary, because there was no attack intended. Merely a list of links in case any new visitors may want to see what he's written besides sex advice.

YeTodd · Mar 31, 2012

YGBFKM said:

Not defending anyone, but it's a really big world out there. Knowing Chris Jones doesn't necessarily make one informed about anything in particular other than magazine writing.
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Not so much the big world that's the problem. It's just that, on my browser I've got 180 bookmarks and 17 open tabs. And sorting through bookmarks doesn't have the same lasting impact on your mind as sorting through papers.

That's why I'll probably print out a few of those Esquire links when I get a chance. (Thanks, pseudo.)

Moderator1 · Mar 31, 2012

To keep DD happy: You people frighten me.

But I'm not locking anything. Yet.

Bubbler · Mar 31, 2012

Double Down said:

Boom_70 said:

I've come to really enjoy these semi regular Jones threads. They are a great change of pace from the day to day SJ discussions. It's great drama. They remind me a bit of the sitcoms of the 60's and 70's where a former regular who has become a star on another show comes back home for a few episodes. For example Gomer Pyle coming home to Mayberry.

They all seem to follow a similar arc. Someone will post a story or blog post from Jones or about Jones. His fans will pop on to pay homage. His detractors will toss out a few barbs and then trade some back and forth with fans as we all await the kings arrival to favor us with a few remarks.

If the Jones story involves a dispute with another writer, we can look forward to new members joining to post on the thread either in support of Jones or to carry on the fight.

When Jones does arrive on the thread, he will always thank his minions for their support and perhaps take a shot or two at his non believers. If said story is a controversial one, Jones will talk about the mental anguish and torture he has been through in the past 24 hours and again thank his fans for their support. He is an extremely gracious king.

All in all, great drama / great fun and fine change of pace from the day to day same ole / same ole.
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Clever and pretty accurate summary, Boom. You just forgot the part where you blow your dog whistle four or five times, then get frustrated because none of your bannermen are answering your call to arms, and then someone who hasn't posted in months but oddly happens to share your IP address comes peeling into the discussion like he just rolled up in a Hummer, they join the fun, I put that person on blast, get a few attaboys from my crew, then someone asks me how Jones' balls taste and accuses me of name-dropping, and then Moddy locks the thread and says "You people really frighten me."
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"A few attaboys from my crew" ... that cracked me up. Brought this to the level of Kool Moe Dee-LL Cool J rap war.

I really don't see Boom wearing as the Kangol hat-wearing type, nor do I envision him writing I Need Love. Strangely, I do see DD bumping it in his white jeep, rolling phat and taking out sucka MC's.

On the other hand, it would be awesome if Boom recited the last verse of I Need Love to 21.

"Girl, listen to me ...
When I be sittin in my room all alone, staring at the wall, fantasies, they go through my mind ...
And ...
I've come to realize that I NEED true love ...
and if you wanna give it to me girl make yourself seen ...
I'll be waiting ...
I love you ..."

Thank me later, Boom.

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