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Jones gives good blog?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Uncle.Ruckus, Mar 29, 2012.

  1. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Much thanks Bubs but Al Green is all I need to make 21 melt.

    DD is my homeboy. We reached peace a while back.
     
  2. YeTodd

    YeTodd New Member

    Over the past six months I've clicked on about ten of Cook's posts. I think he wrote a long piece about somebody called "The Montauk Grifter." But the fact is I don't like Gawker enough to deign spending more than 10 minutes at a time on their site. So I don't really care if that story was any good. The Gawker site is radioactive.

    That being said, there were two recent posts of his which I liked:

    The first was about the importance of writers' integrity--and I was intrigued because I've always had a nagging dislike for both David Sedaris and David Foster Wallace, and I felt that Cook articulated well what they have in common: http://gawker.com/5894913/there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-larger-truth-this-american-lifes-rich-history-of-embellishment.

    The second post was about The Oregonian firing a reporter because she chose not to disclose that her colleague had died of a heart attack while having an affair. Cook sides with the fired reporter. And at the end he states: "Transparency is an extremely good and extremely important value to adhere to. So is a commitment to candor and accuracy. So is not being a heartless fuck." (http://gawker.com/5893891/paper-fires-reporter-for-being-insufficiently-monstrous)

    So, taken out of context, he sounds like a principled writer who values truth and integrity. But I acknowledge, also, that it's impossible to be principled at Gawker. So does that make him a hypocrite? He talks about the "value of accuracy", and meanwhile he writes stuff like the Jones post. But still...you can't call someone a hypocrite if they don't have relevant principles.
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Your analysis about how cunning and editorially savvy they are, and the editorial advantage you perceive, notwithstanding, again, I give you Nick Denton in his own words:

    http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rock-center/46608523#46608523

    As for the clickbaiting, as you call it. They called it "traffic-whoring":

    http://gawker.com/5878065/

    And no, it wasn't part of some convoluted strategy to give the site more dignity. The suggestion is ludicrous. The point was to throw any shit up there to get clicks, of course. How many people with an editorial product they prize, would actual try to tell people with a straight face, "We are going to have one of our writers post just salacious, slanderous and mean-spirited stuff one day a week that appeals to the lowest common demoninator, but it's not because we want to drive freakshow traffic to the site. Nope. We're doing it because we want to make the site better!"

    Seriously? Why not just have everyone do stuff you think is worthwhile all the time?
     
  4. Zeke12

    Zeke12 Guest

    Still waiting on that link, Roland.
     
  5. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    Al Green is the shit. Here I Am (Come And Take Me) might be the best soul song of the early 70s. Can't believe I don't own the Call Me album.
     
  6. YGBFKM

    YGBFKM Guest

    Damnit, I knew I shouldn't have held off on that reference.
     
  7. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    Perhaps if Jones owned that album in his single days, we could have avoided this whole situation.
     
  8. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    Talkin' about the man.
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    But doesn't ESPN have a bit of a slot machine mentality? It seems like somewhat of a contradiction. The poor kid is probably really confused with the mixed message that you are sending him. He wonders who Chris Jones really is. Is he the guy who writes riveting and sometimes tear jerker portraits such as the one about Joe Montgomery? Is he the talented back page columnist at ESPN who is making people fast forget Rick Reilly or is he the guy who writes the provocative and somewhat misogynistic frat boy humor stories in Esquire?

    Who is Chris Jones, that is the central question here.
     
  10. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    It's all I need. ;)
     
  11. Headless_Roland

    Headless_Roland New Member

    Zeke - this count? http://gawker.com/5897485/

    Unless I'm reading it wrong, that's their SCOOP. Not an insignificant one either.

    Also: You've got your Zevon wrong. The sonofabitch Van Owen is in Mombassa. I'm in Palestine and Berkeley. I'm guessing Gawker writers are somewhere in the last verse of "Splendid Isolation."

    As for what I think you're insinuating - nah. I'm a lurker going back to the days of baked chicken gags (ah memories). Just a guy who'll cop to enjoying rowdy tabloid journalism now and then.
     
  12. Zeke12

    Zeke12 Guest

    That's a recap of a 4chan thread... A worthwhile one, yes.

    In-depth journalism?

    And I wasn't insinuating anything. Just like Zevon, is all.
     
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