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Jones gives good blog?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Uncle.Ruckus, Mar 29, 2012.

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  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I think I'll go with Jones:

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    The architectural firm that deigned it wasn't very "nondescript" either:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carr%C3%A8re_and_Hastings
     
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    YankeeFan, Apr 15, 2012
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  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    The building was named for the Fisk Rubber Company, a major tire manufacturer.

    The whole neighborhood used to be dominated by auto dealers, and related companies.

    A great article about the neighborhood and the time:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/24/automobiles/24DEALERS.html
     
    YankeeFan, Apr 15, 2012
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  3. typefitter

    typefitter Well-Known Member

    Nondescript? Tough crowd. I think that's a beautiful building. And that glass building behind it is the Hearst Tower, where Esquire is. That part of town has gone from the auto industry to print: Time Warner, Random House, Hearst, they've all built new buildings there in the last decade.

    Also: I'd like to see how many of today's nondescript buildings are still standing square-shouldered in 90 years.
     
    typefitter, Apr 15, 2012
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  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    So, you took the story for the easy commute?

    I think it's a beautiful building. It was designed by a prestigious firm, and is a throwback to the neighborhood's automobile history.
     
    YankeeFan, Apr 15, 2012
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  5. imjustagirl

    imjustagirl Active Member

    I never knew that was the Hearst building. But I'm terrible with directions, so when I'm in Central Park, I always head toward that building to catch the subway at the Columbus Circle stop.
     
    imjustagirl, Apr 15, 2012
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  6. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Fair synopsis of both articles. Jones has more detail of the process and also the interesting fact that Moyers has an office in same building. McGrath does include one fun fact though.... Johnson called his penis "Jumbo".

    After reading both stories I could not help but wonder if publishers can afford to spend money any more on these long term projects that may not pay off for 10 years.

    Jones - any idea what kind of compensation that Caro was receiving while writing? I would think to maintain his lifestyle in NYC with an office that he would have had to have at least a 1 mil per year budget.
     
    Boom_70, Apr 16, 2012
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  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I worked in the Fisk Building for three years. It's a fine building architecturally, but our set up inside was anything but beautiful. I realize that not all the floors inside are done up equally, though.

    We were a small niche publishing company with less than a dozen magazine titles. Our offices were spread around two floors, kind of piece meal among little offices of different sizes. Our offices could best be described as ratty and packed.

    We outgrew it and by the time we bailed, the rents weren't cheap. Packing up and moving was a pain, but we definitely traded up in about every way possible, even though we moved into a building in lower Manhattan (after 9/11 there were good tax incentives) without the pedigree and history
     
    The Big Ragu, Apr 16, 2012
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  8. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    The difference here depends entirely upon whether Chip is describing the inside of the building or the outside.
     
    Azrael, Apr 16, 2012
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  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Now you're making excuses.

    Call it a nondescript office then, not a nondescript building.
     
    YankeeFan, Apr 16, 2012
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  10. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Not doing anything. I'm pointing out that per Ragu, the inside might be pretty drab. Which might account for the difference in descriptions.
     
    Azrael, Apr 16, 2012
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  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Not to get too bogged down in this debate. But my 2 cents. The Fisk isn't nondescript. But you really have to look up and study it to realize the details. It's one of those buildings that is easy to walk by over and over again and not notice. There have been long periods of time in which the building has been surrounded by scaffolding, because it is perpetually breaking down. I haven't been inside in a few years, but it's not the most luxurious lobby either. The elevators were kind of rickety; but maybe they have upgraded since 2001, 2002 when I was in there every day? It's what I would call a throwback building. It's greatest asset in terms of setting up shop in 2012, is that it is right near Columbus Circle. Depending on what you do, it doesn't get much better than that for location. Plus, there are some of the best neighborhood bars around if you walk over to 8th Ave. and step into Hell's Kitchen. I think every small company that works around there adopts one as its own.
     
    The Big Ragu, Apr 16, 2012
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  12. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    If McGrath is a New Yorker maybe that accounts for the difference. Over time many of the buildings blend together and you just get to the point of not paying much attention.
    You just want to get where you need to go.
     
    Boom_70, Apr 16, 2012
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