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Jordan Neely killing/Daniel Penny charges

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Alma, May 13, 2023.

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  1. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    It's the tribal opposite of standing on the subway tracks to disrupt people, and chanting inane freshman year protest slogans. For the life of me, I can’t understand donating to a stranger’s defense if you weren’t there and don’t know precisely what happened.
     
    The Big Ragu, May 16, 2023
    #109
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  2. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    I disagree as I have posted up thread. I certainly that this is a matter with tremendous nuance and unknown facts. But I can certainly understand why people could be upset that the decision not to make an arrest was done extremely quickly and seemingly without review of all of the pertinent facts. I don’t understand how people who have seen the tape think that choking him to death was a commendable act.
     
    Webster, May 16, 2023
    #110
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I know we disagree.

    The earliest stories had the guy who shot the video saying that Neely was yelling that he didn't care if he got a life sentence. If someone was yelling that, the assumption without knowing anything for most people would be that his behavior corresponded to the words and he was a serious threat. The stories had details about two others trying to help restrain Neely, which lent itself to Neely maybe having been a real threat. Details came out about more than 40 arrests, including some subway assaults.

    Anyone who was upset that the police didn't make an arrest was not interested in the truth. They were the tribal opposite of the people who want to make Penny into a cause because he fits their world view. Nobody knew how "quickly" the cops made the decision to hold off on an arrest or really what the police heard from the witnesses.

    FWIW, the police were there in 6 minutes from the first 911 call, according to Adams today. People are creating narratives to turn this into what they want rather than objectively hoping we can find out what really happened.
     
    The Big Ragu, May 16, 2023
    #111
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  4. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Not happening. Too much money made the way it is.
     
    Alma, May 16, 2023
    #112
  5. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    And a general “fuck you, bootstraps or nothing” philosophy of one party.
     
    Inky_Wretch, May 16, 2023
    #113
  6. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

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    MisterCreosote, May 16, 2023
    #114
  7. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    doctorquant, May 16, 2023
    #115
  8. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

    everyone is teh bad
     
    DanielSimpsonDay, May 16, 2023
    #116
  9. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Finally we find something to agree on.
     
    doctorquant, May 16, 2023
    #117
  10. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    LOL.
     
    MisterCreosote, May 16, 2023
    #118
  11. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

     
    Della9250, May 16, 2023
    #119
  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Ten days . . .

    Why Prosecutors Waited Before They Charged Daniel Penny


    Ten days after the May 1 killing, Alvin L. Bragg, the Manhattan district attorney, filed a felony complaint of second-degree manslaughter against Daniel Penny, the 24-year-old ex-Marine who choked Jordan Neely to death on the F train in a killing that was captured on a four-minute video.

    Questions remain about why prosecutors waited and whether public outrage might have affected their choices.

    “All of that public scrutiny on the one hand is a motivation for acting quickly, but on the other hand, it raises the stakes of being very thorough,” said Brandon del Pozo, a former New York City police commander, who is now a researcher at Brown University.


    “Whatever happens will be very highly scrutinized,” he said.

    What decisions did the Manhattan district attorney’s office have to make?

     
    Azrael, May 17, 2023
    #120
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