Josh Hancock details from police

Armchair_QB · May 2, 2007

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Ace said:

Just_An_SID said:

I kind of thought that this story would take a bad turn, but I never imagined this one.
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I'd say when a car hits a car or tow truck parked on the side of the road in decent weather at 12:30 a.m. you talking impaired driver 90 percent of the time. Sleeping driver 10 percent.
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I'm not defending the guy but the reports I've seen indicate the tow truck wasn't on the shoulder. It was parked in the far left lane of the freeway.

Ben_Hecht · May 2, 2007

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Tony LaRussa thinks that all of this is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, little man.

The worst thing about last year's World Series was that LaRussa was the recipient of such a gift.

HeinekenMan · May 2, 2007

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Let's not forget that LaRussa was arrested in Florida during spring training. I'm not sure you have to be a role model for your players at that level, but it's an interesting tidbit.

D-3 Fan · May 2, 2007

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leo1 said:

D-3 Fan said:

-This doesn't look good from a PR standpoint for the Cardinals family at all. If you take away LaRussa getting dinged for DUI during spring training, if the accounts are accurate and the toxicology report come out to confirm that alcohol was in his system, the Cardinals (organization and team), Mike Shannon (p-b-p and owner of his own restaurant), his daughter (who is the manager), and everyone around Hancock come out looking really bad.
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tony larussa is like teflon. he's a freakin' genius. is he implying he wants to hit a reporter with a fungo?

when coaches and managers start using the "us against them" card with players against the media, and start talking about reporters having their own agendas, it always seems to backfire eventually.
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Oh, I'm well-versed about Tony's mentality of "gotcha journalism." He hasn't met Mike Wallace yet. With that said, there isn't a defensive mechanism that he can use to protect his players or himself to the STL media with regards to his DUI and Hancock's final days on the sauce, from what's being said and observed. Big Bernie, Gordo, and Burwell will be hunting The Midwestern Sicilian (or Italian) down once the team gets back from the funeral in Clarksdale.

Bubbler · May 2, 2007

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D-3 Fan said:

-This doesn't look good from a PR standpoint for the Cardinals family at all. If you take away LaRussa getting dinged for DUI during spring training, if the accounts are accurate and the toxicology report come out to confirm that alcohol was in his system, the Cardinals (organization and team), Mike Shannon (p-b-p and owner of his own restaurant), his daughter (who is the manager), and everyone around Hancock come out looking really bad.

-If I was Mike Shannon, I would ban any current Cardinals players from visiting the restaurant for a long time. All of this is making him look really bad as a former Cardinal and p-b-p guy for the same team.

-Campbell would have been wise to tell the STLPD first and told them what he noticed, before telling the WWL. Secondly, we don't know how much Soup actually had to drink, before leaving to eat at another place. Along with Gary Thorne, this hasn't been a good week for ESPN announcers and analysts.
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None on this reflects on anyone but Josh Hancock.

And I don't know why this reflects badly on Mike Shannon just because he owns a restaurant and is also the play-by-play man. It would be akin to saying it's Mike Shannon's fault whenever someone dies drinking an easy drinking Busch Light.

The Cardinals are intrinsically linked with beer. Everyone knows that. It doesn't mean they're responsible for those who don't know how to handle it.

D-3 Fan · May 2, 2007

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Bubbler, it was an observational opinion, not a fact. I caught a small dose of local radio today, and the host tried to blame Shannon and his restaurant for not calling a cab to pick-up Hancock, even after Hancock refused one. Yes, Hancock took his life in his hands by his own choice. You know this as well as I do that we should not be surprised if his family might file a wrongful death suit against Shannon and his place for serving Hancock, causing him to get drunk, and not shoving Hancock into a cab kicking and screaming and sending him home.

There's a lawyer who can't wait to whisper that in their ears.

Dude · May 2, 2007

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All I can say is thank goodness Hancock was the only casualty of his recklessness.

I'm not saying it's good he died whatsoever. I'm just happy he didn't injure or kill someone else.

ogre · May 3, 2007

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Smasher_Sloan said:

ogre said:

I understand Campbell not reporting every time he was out drinking with an athlete. It is hypocritical when you, too, were boozing. Akin to writers making a big deal -- beyond simply reporting it -- of an athlete that gets arrested with drugs, when the writer has done the same drugs at some point.

But when the guy ends up dead the next day from driving home from the bar? ESPN should be pissed.
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What are you talking about? Campbell wasn't <i>with</i> Hancock because he didn't even know him. They happened to be in the same place, which happens to be popular among baseball people. If you go into Shannon's when the Cardinals have a home series, you'll probably see personnel from both teams and maybe an umpire or two also. That doesn't mean they're all hanging out together.

"Boozing?" I don't know about Missouri, but it's legal in a lot of states for adults to purchase and consume alcoholic drinks. Shannon's isn't a speakeasy.

Maybe that athlete/writer drug thing makes sense to you. Most writers can't afford the kind of drug habits athletes have.
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boozing is a funny word. nobody can deny that. speakeasy? I didnt say they were drinking bathtub gin after rapping the secret knock on the door.

What Im saying about drinking "with" a guy is that if a reporter is at a bar, sees a player drinking, and then hears the next day that the player died in a car accident, the reporter should put one and one together. Of course he did put it together, and chose not to act on it.

zeke12 · May 3, 2007

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Without being a dick, can we wait until the tox screen is back before we assume the worst?

Simon_Cowbell · May 3, 2007

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Zeke12 said:

Without being a dick, can we wait until the tox screen is back before we assume the worst?
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You are so cute.

hondo · May 3, 2007

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Tony LaRussa is inflicted with that Bill Parcells/Nick Saban/Bob Knight syndrome in which he believes that because he's good at what he does as the coach/manager of a sport, he's mentally superior to all of those around him.
They're all dumb jockos. If they couldn't coach a lick, they'd be Ace Hardware managers or teaching six-grade gym.

Bubbler · May 3, 2007

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hondo said:

Tony LaRussa is inflicted with that Bill Parcells/Nick Saban/Bob Knight syndrome in which he believes that because he's good at what he does as the coach/manager of a sport, he's mentally superior to all of those around him.
They're all dumb jockos. If they couldn't coach a lick, they'd be Ace Hardware managers or teaching six-grade gym.
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Or in LaRussa's case a lawyer, but I see your greater point.

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