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Juan Williams Fired from NPR

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by YankeeFan, Oct 21, 2010.

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  1. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    This morning on NPR I learned that it used to be tradition in the Ukraine for a woman to turn down a marriage proposal by giving the man a pumpkin.

    More at: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130890830
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Well, I'm not a journalist. So, there's that.

    Was also tryingto be a little bit current & explain the "anti-elite" feelings currently prevalent among Republicans, tea partiers, and others looking to "trow the bums out."

    But, Reagan worked as a spokesperson for GE for a long time and knew a little about business. He was also President of the screen actors guild, so he had some experience running an organization. He had also served as the governor of a very large state before he was elected President.

    And, he never came across as a know-it-all elite. Growing up poor & going to Eureka College will probably do that.

    I think it would be really silly to compare his experience to a first term Senator who began running for president less than a year removed from being a State Senator.
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I said, "your plumber." Is Joe "not a plumber" your plumber?

    I'm just saying that tradesmen who run their own small businesses have real world, practical knowledge -- the kind of knowledge & experience you're not going to get working in government or academia.

    Do you dispute that?
     
  4. kmayhugh

    kmayhugh Member

    Not a big fan of the "common sense" approach to governing. Common sense is often code for "gut feeling without any research" and people often overestimate how applicable their personal experiences are to larger issues.

    Rodney Dangerfield not withstanding, many people who excel in academia do so because they are brilliant, and many people are other things because they are not as brilliant.

    When challenged, the anti-intellectual faction of the right likes to paint it as "real-world brilliance vs. the ivory tower." And I can understand that point of view. But in practice, it's not innovators and engineers and business leaders who are being propped up as the faces of that movement. It's intellectual lightweights with resumes that look paltry compared to even the average sportswriter.
     
  5. kmayhugh

    kmayhugh Member

    I dispute that practical knowledge on how to run a small business translates into useful skills running a large country.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I didn't say that either.

    But, it might be nice if a couple of people on his economic team had run a business.

    Go through the list of the current cabinet members, economic advisors, and "Czars." You won't find a lot of private sector experience. I'm not sure any of them have ever run a business. Very few have even been on a private sector payroll.
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Could you just decline the pumpkin? Were you required to do the walk of shame?

    These are the kind of quirky stories NPR loves. I mean, it's interesting, but...
     
  8. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    Now, every time someone mentions a pumpkin, I have an obscure story to tell.

    If I collect enough random stories about enough random things, eventually, people will leave me alone.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Oh, you can be a star at cocktail parties if you listen to NPR.

    You'll have an interesting, quirky anecdote for nearly any topic.
     
  10. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    No, hopefully people will avoid me at cocktail parties and I'll be able to concentrate on the cocktails.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Oh. Well, then stop listening to NPR.

    Because you know that if someone mentions pumpkins at the next cocktail party you attend, you're not going to be able to resist telling the sad story of rejected Ukrainian grooms.
     
  12. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    And, after I do, they'll avoid me at any future cocktail parties.

    Rome wasn't built in a day.

    Hey, I think that I heard that on NPR, too!
     
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