1. Welcome to SportsJournalists.com, a friendly forum for discussing all things sports and journalism.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register for a free account to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Access to private conversations with other members.
    • Fewer ads.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Kindred on Albom receiving this year's Red Smith Award

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Oscar Gamble, Jul 17, 2010.

  1. Twoback

    Twoback Active Member

    Didn't you just call me "born to pass judgment"?
    Pot ... kettle.
     
  2. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    did you cross a picket line?
     
  3. Twoback

    Twoback Active Member

    No.
    But one certainly crossed me up.
    Changed my life. Time with family, time with friends ... gone.
    So it's not a one-size-fits-all answer, from my experience.
     
  4. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    I respect you for that, it's never easy and it effects a lot of people.
     

  5. Kindred folos up... (this is a few days old) ...

    http://sportsjournalism.org/sports-media-news/a-look-back-at-a-careers-worth-of-hatpins-in-the-eyeballs/

    PS Love David Broder's quote.
     
  6. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    No, but that goes without saying. It was what Simmons wrote about - Boston sports that are an hour away from Bristol. the Red Sox living then breaking a long, awful streak - that made him marketable, not so much what he was writing. The writing was then and is now...not bad. But there's hundreds of people doing it on subjects that don't command much attention.

    Which is why Whitlock's mention of him is pointless. Because you can't do that in every market. You could, in theory, do what Mitch Albom does.
     
  7. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    http://www.freep.com/article/20100725/COL01/7250472/1082/Col01/In-the-Sherrod-controversy-do-shoot-the-messenger

    Also a couple days old -- Mitch gets right back on the horse, preaching about media credibility, selective editing, etc.

    I agree with about 98% of the substance of what he's saying, but he obviously doesn't get it: he's forfeited the credibility to ever talk about the subject again.
     
  8. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Twoback, I respect your sentiments. But if you're in the union, and the members vote strike, you have to stick with the majority decision -- no matter what. Otherwise, there is no union.
     
  9. Twoback

    Twoback Active Member

    By logical extension, then, if you're in a Democracy and your leaders take you to war -- there is no right to protest.
    No demonstrations in the park, no signs, no "1-2-3-4, we don't want your war."
    Otherwise, there is no nation?

    Unions can be full of crap. Detroit going on strike at that time, given the state of the newspaper industry and what had happened not that long before in Pittsburgh, was idiotic. Choosing not to support was a reasonable course.
     
  10. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Just as I'm sure "choosing not to support" the pay scale and benefits and grievance apparatus they had for decades negotiated on behalf of every employee - even those not in the union - would be a "reasonable course."
     
  11. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    I don't see the logical extension--and I don't really fall one way or another on unions, never been in one. If you're in a union and you don't "like" something, vote against it. But if your side is not the majority, you then respect the union that YOU joined and support it.
     
  12. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    If anybody crosses a picket line I sure as hell hope they turn down the pay raise and negotiated benefits that the uninion ends up receiving. They also should never use the grievance process. It's the most selfish thing somebody can do. I have no idea how scabs can walk back into work after everything is settled.

    There's nothing wrong with being against unions, if you are, fine, go find a non-union job. It's really that simple
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page