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Lane Kiffin Pre-Press Conference Drama

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Ric Flair guy, Jan 16, 2010.

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  1. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    It doesn't matter if you are the only one in the room who is doing what you need to do. There were obviously way more print than TV people there, which is why it was a lot against a few. I do know that two TV stations (the other guy called his boss on his cell phone to ask him what to do) would not agree to keep their cameras off, though. It wasn't just that one guy. I have no idea how many TV stations were actually in the room, in total.
     
    The Big Ragu, Jan 19, 2010
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  2. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Why would any web people agree not to air something live?

    Hell, that's their biggest advantage.

    It's one guy vs. some folks who didn't care/some sheep rolling over.
     
    Ace, Jan 19, 2010
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  3. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    If it was interpreted as me agreeing, that's fine and dandy. And I seriously doubt there was be reprisals down the road for sticking it to a frat boy coach leaving in the dead of night.
     
    Ace, Jan 19, 2010
    #111
  4. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    I'm amazed at how many people in this thread have been able to get clear, coherent arguments across without resorting to posting videos.
     
    RickStain, Jan 19, 2010
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  5. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The conversation Ace and I are having is based on the 8 minute YouTube video. I just made a few observations based on what I saw.
     
    The Big Ragu, Jan 19, 2010
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  6. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    So you saw something, and then were able to present information and analysis based off what you saw *without* resorting to replaying it on video? Unpossible!
     
    RickStain, Jan 19, 2010
    #114
  7. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    What is your point? Would you feel the same if Kiffin agreed to a press conference about his leaving only if everything he said was off the record?

    TV (and web) needs the video. Print doesn't. So what?
     
    Ace, Jan 19, 2010
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  8. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    That's been debunked repeatedly in this thread.
     
    RickStain, Jan 19, 2010
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  9. BB Bobcat

    BB Bobcat Active Member

    I don't think that having a grasp of reality qualifies as being a sheep.

    I was about to try again to convince you of this, but I'd only be repeating myself. Enjoy your time in Journalism Fantasyland.
     
    BB Bobcat, Jan 19, 2010
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  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    If I had gotten an account of what happened in that room second hand, our conversation right now would be based on someone relaying his take on what happened during those 8 minutes. You are arguing that is superior (or even equal) in this instance to me having seen it for myself?

    What I got was a full view of it, unbiased and without the necessary omissions made according to space in a newspaper or what a writer thought was important to include or not include. Without video, I might assume things about the guy arguing that are not necessarily true because of the resentment of the print people, who have posted their opinions and been all over him. Whether I am right or wrong in my opinion, video certainly left me with way more to form an opinion with, and had much more impact than second-hand accounts would have. Not coincidentally, that YouTube video went viral. This reached way more people because there was actually video of what happened, rather than just second-hand accounts.
     
    The Big Ragu, Jan 19, 2010
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  11. clutchcargo

    clutchcargo Active Member

    Quick note to comments in here: "TV journalism" is an oxymoron.

    The best reporter in that room, and he was on camera much of the time not saying anything, was espn.com's Chris Low----sitting to Bud Ford's left in the black wind vest at the head of the table.
     
    clutchcargo, Jan 19, 2010
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  12. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Nope. I'm saying it's an acceptable, though inferior, substitute when it has to be.

    Honestly, I think the video hurts the TV guy's image. If I had just been relayed the facts, I probably would have been more sympathetic to him, but there's a more gut, emotional reaction to seeing it that clouds judgment.
     
    RickStain, Jan 19, 2010
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