Larry Fitzgerald's dad

Moderator1 · Jan 26, 2009

So we've gone from eating too much to work to standing up and cheering?

Drip · Jan 26, 2009

Angola! said:

Drip said:

Angola! said:

Drip said:

Angola! said:

Drip said:

Stitch said:

Do newspapers that cover minorities get a pass when it comes to ethics and proper behavior in a press box?
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WTF?
Last time I checked, there were more people from papers who didn't cover minorities acting like idiots in a press box. I have never seen a minority cheer in a press box, ask for an autograph or eat like a hog on free food and say they are too stuffed to work.
As for Larry Sr., I'm sure he's a proud papa but I also believe he wants to do the right thing and present himself as an unbiased journalist.
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I don't have a horse in this race, but this is a pretty galling statement to make.
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Galling perhaps but oh so very true Angola.
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You have never seen a minority cheer in a press box, ask for an autograph or eat like a hog on free food and say they are too stuffed to work?

Well, have you ever worked in a press box would be my question for the first two?

My second question would be: Who have you ever worked with that claimed they ate too much they couldn't work?
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I firmly stand by my initial statement. Angola I would never name anyone publicly on this thread like that. Two wrongs don't make it right.
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Oh, I won't name anyone, but I will say this: I have seen plenty a minority eat free food and cheer in press boxes.

I've also never seen a journalist anywhere "eat too much and not be able to work."

I've seen journalists not be able to work because they were ill, but not because they ate too much.

The hyperbole is a bit strong, Drip.
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Angola, this whole thing is drifitng a bit and hopefully we can get it back on Larry Fitzgerald Sr.. It's not hyperbole. It's the truth.
It bothered me to see Stitch's inital statement which is what I responded to.

slappy4428 · Jan 26, 2009

Moderator1 said:

A. You won't name anyone because you can't.
B. I was in press boxes for 30 years. Many of them. Different sports, different places, different countries. Never one time saw the behavior you describe. If it was "many," you'd think the odds would be in my favor of seeing it once.
C. See A.
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Hmmm, should I believe you or runny goop... yeah, you.
The other guy is making shit up and throwing it against the wall again, the arbiter of all of us...

Drip · Jan 26, 2009

Moderator1 said:

So we've gone from eating too much to work to standing up and cheering?
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What are you talking about?

slappy4428 · Jan 26, 2009

Drip said:

Moderator1 said:

A. You won't name anyone because you can't.
B. I was in press boxes for 30 years. Many of them. Different sports, different places, different countries. Never one time saw the behavior you describe. If it was "many," you'd think the odds would be in my favor of seeing it once.
C. See A.
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Who benefits from naming a name? Hell moddy, I was once in your neck of the woods covering an NCAA event and had a fellow staffer stand up and cheer during the game.
You know a lot but you don't know what you are talking about on this subject. I stand by what I said.
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Yeah, who benefits from making an accusation, then backing it up?

pseudo · Jan 26, 2009

Joe Williams said:

JayFarrar said:

Lots of papers run articles about hometown guys who made good.
I'd think Fitzgerald Jr., would fall into that category without much argument.
Just seems to me that people are looking for an easy story to write and having a sportswriter's son playing in Super Bowl, a game that the father is going to cover, makes for an easy story.
More lazy than shameful.
Than the ever-predictable, navel gazing as to why it is wrong for a father to report on his son.
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People need to effing calm down here.

This is a weekly paper in a market served by two dailies, for a specific audience and for whom Fitz Sr. writes as a columnist. If he's hammering the claim that he's going to offer objective coverage of the Super Bowl in spite of his kid's participation, well, that's just silly. Doubt hardly anyone is looking to him for that.

But he can serve his readers awfully well by taking this unique opportunity to do first-person and behind-the-scenes stuff that very few sports columnists of any stature -- Mt. Rushmore or not -- ever can. If I were the editor of that weekly, that's exactly what I would expect from him. Not some contorted attempt to be just like all the other sportswriters on this one.

In these times, particularly, where a unique reporting angle might attract eyeballs.

Fitz Sr. isn't going to try to get a job at the NY Times off this or even the Twin Cities papers. He is what he is what he is and need not apologize for it. He gets a crack at "covering" (better yet, let's just call it writing about) his kid in the Super Bowl for once in his professional life. That's a special assignment and shouldn't be treated like any other gig requiring classic objectivity.

Besides, I think that paper specifically forgoes classic objectivity to serve its niche audience.

Re: the 1997 press box incident, the Minneapolis paper needs to do a lot more explaining and introspection about Sid Hartman -- a so-called big-timer -- than Fitz Sr. and his weekly editor have to do about their guy's ethics and behavior. Everyone has been scared of Grandpa Sports for the past 40 years or so, including his bosses.
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Well said, sir. I think the people writing about Fitz Sr. are the ones peddling the "unbiased journalist" mantra, not him. (Although I guess he hasn't been quick to deny it, either. Eh, whatever.)

I'll be honest: as long as it doesn't descend into abject "look at my kid!" adoration, I'll be interested to see what he writes.

As for the threadjack ... :

Moderator1 · Jan 26, 2009

Drip said:

Moderator1 said:

A. You won't name anyone because you can't.
B. I was in press boxes for 30 years. Many of them. Different sports, different places, different countries. Never one time saw the behavior you describe. If it was "many," you'd think the odds would be in my favor of seeing it once.
C. See A.
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Who benefits from naming a name? Hell moddy, I was once in your neck of the woods covering an NCAA event and had a fellow staffer stand up and cheer during the game.
You know a lot but you don't know what you are talking about on this subject. I stand by what I said.
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This

Drip said:

Moderator1 said:

So we've gone from eating too much to work to standing up and cheering?
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What are you talking about?
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is what I'm talking about, read your own posts.

Drip · Jan 26, 2009

slappy4428 said:

Moderator1 said:

A. You won't name anyone because you can't.
B. I was in press boxes for 30 years. Many of them. Different sports, different places, different countries. Never one time saw the behavior you describe. If it was "many," you'd think the odds would be in my favor of seeing it once.
C. See A.
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Hmmm, should I believe you or runny goop... yeah, you.
The other guy is making shit up and throwing it against the wall again, the arbiter of all of us...
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You don't matter in this conversation. You want to instigate. That's not happening. Try again.

Moderator1 · Jan 26, 2009

He matters as much as anybody else.
We're about done here anyway.

slappy4428 · Jan 26, 2009

Drip said:

slappy4428 said:

Moderator1 said:

A. You won't name anyone because you can't.
B. I was in press boxes for 30 years. Many of them. Different sports, different places, different countries. Never one time saw the behavior you describe. If it was "many," you'd think the odds would be in my favor of seeing it once.
C. See A.
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Hmmm, should I believe you or runny goop... yeah, you.
The other guy is making shit up and throwing it against the wall again, the arbiter of all of us...
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You don't matter in this conversation. You want to instigate. That's not happening. Try again.
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I forgot you are the arbiter of what and who is discussed here. But this is another case of your throwing shit against the walll and see what sticks.
I want to instigate? Read your own posts and see who istrying to make shit up and backpedal like a Russian bear on a unicycle...

Angola! · Jan 26, 2009

Drip said:

Angola! said:

Drip said:

Angola! said:

Drip said:

Angola! said:

Drip said:

Stitch said:

Do newspapers that cover minorities get a pass when it comes to ethics and proper behavior in a press box?
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WTF?
Last time I checked, there were more people from papers who didn't cover minorities acting like idiots in a press box. I have never seen a minority cheer in a press box, ask for an autograph or eat like a hog on free food and say they are too stuffed to work.
As for Larry Sr., I'm sure he's a proud papa but I also believe he wants to do the right thing and present himself as an unbiased journalist.
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I don't have a horse in this race, but this is a pretty galling statement to make.
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Galling perhaps but oh so very true Angola.
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You have never seen a minority cheer in a press box, ask for an autograph or eat like a hog on free food and say they are too stuffed to work?

Well, have you ever worked in a press box would be my question for the first two?

My second question would be: Who have you ever worked with that claimed they ate too much they couldn't work?
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I firmly stand by my initial statement. Angola I would never name anyone publicly on this thread like that. Two wrongs don't make it right.
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Oh, I won't name anyone, but I will say this: I have seen plenty a minority eat free food and cheer in press boxes.

I've also never seen a journalist anywhere "eat too much and not be able to work."

I've seen journalists not be able to work because they were ill, but not because they ate too much.

The hyperbole is a bit strong, Drip.
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Angola, this whole thing is drifitng a bit and hopefully we can get it back on Larry Fitzgerald Sr.. It's not hyperbole. It's the truth.
It bothered me to see Stitch's inital statement which is what I responded to.
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Drip, you caused this all to go off course by claiming that minority journalists don't "cheer in press boxes" or "eat free food."

Sorry, if you wanted to keep it on course you wouldn't have gone that direction.

I work, and have worked, with plenty of minority journalists and they are as good as any non-minority journalists I've worked with in my career, but your attempts to act like minority journalists are perfect, as far as ethics, is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read on this site.

JC · Jan 26, 2009

Drip said:

Angola! said:

Drip said:

Stitch said:

Do newspapers that cover minorities get a pass when it comes to ethics and proper behavior in a press box?
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WTF?
Last time I checked, there were more people from papers who didn't cover minorities acting like idiots in a press box. I have never seen a minority cheer in a press box, ask for an autograph or eat like a hog on free food and say they are too stuffed to work.
As for Larry Sr., I'm sure he's a proud papa but I also believe he wants to do the right thing and present himself as an unbiased journalist.
Click to expand...

I don't have a horse in this race, but this is a pretty galling statement to make.
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Galling perhaps but oh so very true Angola.
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You are so full of shit, Pinocchio. Your buddy Rob Parker fellates Joe Dumars any chance he gets. You won't name anybody because you're a liar.

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