Legalization? An Insult-Free Discussion

As someone who has both bought and smoked weed before, I can say the people I bought from never had anything but weed and absolutely would not permit anything but to be brought into their house. So that kind of logic may be applicable in limited cases, but it's not the general rule. Sorry.

Secondly, "lying" to kids about drugs. If we are honest and tell them the truth, not just about weed but about all drugs ... some are dangerous and some are not ... then we're actually educating them.

Third, if a kid can't get his hands on alcohol, he doesn't immediately go out and get a gun or a tab of acid. Why would you think he'd automatically get an 8-ball of coke if he can't get a dime bag of weed?

 

True in your case, Alley. I'm not so sure that's true in most people's experiences.

It actually was true in my case, for most of my pot-smoking life (hey, no "stigma" here) that my friends were only into pot, and thus I was only into pot. At one point, I developed new friends and then it wasn't so true. There were harder drugs around, and if I wanted to really get into the hard stuff, I could have. Very easily. I didn't, but only because I'm not really into "drugs." I'm into pot. Never cared for anything else, just like I drink beer almost exclusively and don't really go for hard liquor very much. I like beer; I don't like hard liquor.

But you're also right: You can't assume just because a kid can't get a dimebag that he's going to say, "Oh, well, how about that crack rock instead?" You stretch the logic to fit the point, if you argue that.

 

Oh c'mon, do you really need to see a study?  It's really sort of instinctual.  Would you smoke pot around your kid?  

 

Actually, it is deserving of a study. Birth defects have many causes. Knowing more about them is always good.

Pot is also deserving of studies. Legit studies, without fear of criminalization. Debunk all these myths.

 

Lugs, I'm not saying we should smoke pot around kids or pregnant women. But if we mentally equate someone smoking pot to a particular child's problems at birth, we're making a leap without all the facts. Someone else mentioned, "What if she'd fallen down while pregnant?" That could have had as much of an impact, if not more.
Common sense in life is what's needed more than anything else, but whether we have laws or not, there's plenty of people who will have NO common sense.

 

No, I wouldn't. Nor would I let anybody smoke legal cigarettes around him/her (if I had a kid).

Of course, I also plan to feed my kids totally organic products (as much as possible) because I think the growth hormones fed to most cattle causes kids to mature physically at younger ages.

 

You guys are scaring me.

There are THOUSANDS OF STUDIES about the effects of pot on unborn children and kids.

Here... I just went to pub med and grabbed the first few things I saw.

Guys... please think...

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search&DB=pubmed

Maternal recreational drug use and marijuana use during pregnancy were associated with increased risk of neuroblastoma in offspring. Further examination of these drugs and the risk of childhood cancer is warranted.

Discrete opioid gene expression impairment in the human fetal brain associated with maternal marijuana use.

These results suggest that prenatal marijuana exposure alters neural functioning during visuospatial working memory processing in young adulthood.

Marijuana and cannabinoids have been shown to exert profound effects on hypothalamic regulatory functions and reproduction in both experimental animals and humans.

 

I don't read anything that has to do with the negative effects of marijuana because there are none.

 

These studies are also regulated (and often supervised) by a government that is intent on keeping marijuana illegal and sending the message that marijuana is more harmful than it really is.

That said, I believe you: Marijuana consumption is harmful to a pregnancy. As is alcohol. As are cigarettes. Still not a legit reason for keeping 1 of those 3 illegal, and not the other 2.

 

Lugs, please understand. I am NOT advocating the use of drugs by pregnant women or men who smoke around pregnant women. Not even close.

But to go back to your original argument several pages ago, these people who would do it if pot were legal are the same people who do it right now when it is ILLEGAL.

 

Buckw,

The studies are from universities-- many NOT in this country.  If you like, I can link all European studies.

This is unbelievable...

 

Exactly. Somebody who would smoke pot while pregnant or around kids is the same person who thinks nothing of lighting up a Marlboro Light in an enclosed car with a baby riding next to them.

Trash is trash. Stupid is stupid. Doesn't matter if we're talking illegal or legal smokes.