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Light the Hot Stove fires

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Angola!, Oct 29, 2006.

  1. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    In 2007? Really?
     
  2. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Query: Is it a worse decision to ludicrously overpay a very good offensive player like Soriano, who should've gotten 5 yrs at $11 mil or so, or to pay $9 million a year for five seasons for Juan Pierre who isn't going to help you at all?
     
  3. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    First, I would say b, and not close. Second, what does "should have" mean? There's a lot of money out there, and there are no bargains to be had. He was going to get this money from someone, if you want him, it's got to be you. I'm not saying it's a good contract, but view it in the same way you view the Pedro contract, paying him way past his useful life in order to get him.
     
  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Do you realize just how good Jones was when he was healthy last year? He just needs to stay healthy. Soriano is capable of completely sucking for long stretches even when he is 100 percent.
     
  5. Just as an aside - no player in history who averaged a .300 BA over 10-years was kept out of the HoF. That was until Jim Rice.

    Now Chipper Jones and Nomar are both very questionable HoF candidates but if they are kept out then they will be the 2nd and 3rd players to average .300 over a 10-year period to be kept out of Cooperstown.

    Hooters girls rule.
     
  6. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    On the one hand, it's alot easier to do now than when Rice did it. The flip side, which IMO carries greater weight, Jones was a 3b, Nomar mostly a SS. Rice was a LF, if that.
     
  7. spnited

    spnited Active Member


    All of that wold be true, guy, if it actually happened in 2003.














    2001
     
  8. Overrated

    Overrated Guest

    Why is it "a lot easier" to do now?

    Also, not all Hooters girls rule. I've seen plenty who've looked like they just escaped from a POW camp.
     
  9. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    It seems to be, alot more players do.
     
  10. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    They were saying, correctly, that he lost the '03 series - he struck out virtually every time up. I countered by noting the '01 WS where he nearly won it.

    And to think, I has started a snarky response to your post about errors about how the conversation is about offense, but decided to leave you be.
     
  11. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Thanks guy, read that one wrong.

    He also hit .240 in 2001 with six hits and 8Ks in 7 games. Not exactly stellar.

    For his post-season career....7 series, 38 games... he's at .231, 4 HRs, 18 RBI, 45 Ks.
     
  12. novelist_wannabe

    novelist_wannabe Well-Known Member

    Is Chipper questionable for the HOF? You can make the case that he is the best player in Atlanta history (considering only production since the franchise moved south), he's third all-time in switch-hitter home runs (behind Mickey and Eddie Murray) and already holds the National League record in that category. Even with his declining health, he seems a lock to finish with more than 400 home runs (Rice had .382) and a better lifetime batting average (currently .304) to Rice's .298. Plus, he has owned the Mets in front of the New York media, which contains the largest block of HOF voters. One of them famously stood up and did the Heisman pose after Jones jacked a home run in September, 1999, when Bobby Valentine inexplicably continued pitching to him. I'm not saying he's a mortal lock, but I'd place him in the likely category. I guess that makes him questionable, but I think he has a strong case, particularly if he can squeeze out three more decent years.
     
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