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Light the Hot Stove fires

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Angola!, Oct 29, 2006.

  1. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    Nope. The most predictable HR in history was Paul O'Neill off of Mel Rojas.
     
  2. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    Mussina has been wearing down the last few years. I think Moyer had one injury-interrupted year in the stretch you described. Rogers had one injury-interrupted year as well. Maybe Mussina finds the fountain of youth, but he seems increasingly brittle.

    Most of all, he doesn't strike me as a guy who is going to hang on for 33 more wins (presuming he wins as many games the next two years, 28, as he did the last two years) at age 40. I don't see him pitching into his 40s.

    If he does, he'll be the modern-day version of Don Sutton: A guy with HOF stats who was never a HOF pitcher.

    And Johnson will be a modern-day Lefty Grove. He'll hang on by his fingernails to get 300.
     
  3. Ashy Larry

    Ashy Larry Active Member

    Nope....Cal Ripken's All-Star game HR
     
  4. lantaur

    lantaur Well-Known Member

    Actually, pretty amazing seeing as how he's never won 20 in a season. I don't think he gets there, though. I give him maybe three more years and done.
     
  5. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    Damn. Those are two spot-on comparisons. Good work.
     
  6. Columbo

    Columbo Active Member

    Soriano 11 mill a year....?

    I want some of what you are toking.
     
  7. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    At the risk of being accused of homerism, I don't think Sutton was as good as Mussina before their peaks ended.
     
  8. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Here are Baseball-Reference.com's comparables through age 37:

    1. Juan Marichal (915) *
    2. Jack Morris (873)
    3. Clark Griffith (869) *
    4. Bob Welch (867)
    5. Carl Hubbell (860) *
    6. Curt Schilling (857)
    7. Tom Glavine (857)
    8. Jim Bunning (854) *
    9. Bob Gibson (850) *
    10. Kevin Brown (847)


    *Hall of Famers
     
  9. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    ... and Glavine's a shoo-in for the Hall, while Morris should be.

    Schilling is also on the bubble. That means 7-8 of Moose's top 10 comparables are HOF-caliber (although Griffith is not in as a pitcher, but as an executive.)

    Moose is very borderline. He needs three more good years of 13-15 wins apiece to get a better shot. His winning percentage is already top-notch, he'll be very close to 3,000 K by then, and he'll have close to 275 wins or so. That probably puts him in.
     
  10. Sea Bass

    Sea Bass Well-Known Member

    Didn't Paul O'Neill once hit two home runs in one game?
     
  11. I always though Mussina was most like David Wells except that Wells won 20 games in a season
     
  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    ...and personality (Wells has one) ...and Mussina doesn't look like he swallowed a very large beach ball...
     
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