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Literary agent's bio says Obama was born in Kenya

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Smallpotatoes, May 19, 2012.

  1. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I have ... they had a shootout up north of me a few months ago. All the more reason to call in backup, arrest 'em and impound those cars.
     
  2. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I have more than just a sense, cran. I have it as the likely explanation for the bullshit surrounding young Barack Obama.

    I'd ask his mom the anthropologist (check that, anthropology student) and his dad the Kenyan finance minister (check that, clerk in the finance ministry), but they aren't around anymore, and well, that bio made them into people they weren't either.

    It's more than just a sense. It is likely that was the embellished biography Obama wanted to portray at the time. I'm sure he wasn't thinking that some day he'd be president and it would stick around all these years.

    If I am nutty and a "birther," so is Barack Obama. Who would have thunk he was the original "birther"? If only he had known what awaited years later.
     
  3. king cranium maximus IV

    king cranium maximus IV Active Member

    Well that's it. I'm not voting for Barack Obama now.
     
  4. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    Now I understand the gold fetish as I have little doubt most birthers are nutty about gold. How many of those people working the "Cash 4 Gold"-type ripoff schemes are also birthers? I'd guess it's a higher proportion than the general population.
     
  5. Zeke12

    Zeke12 Guest

    You've gone round the bend, man.
     
  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Zeke, For the record. ... Rather than telling me I am a nut. ... and I have gone around the bend. Which is lazy, frankly.

    Explain how you are firmly rooted in reality -- a reality that doesn't just tune out anything that you don't want to hear.

    What the explanation for how "born in Kenya," "mom is an anthropologist," and "dad is a Kenyan finance minister" ended up in that bio?

    Not life-changing stuff, admittedly, but it is now out there.

    I mean, you are telling me that I am a total nutjob for suggesting a guy who has a penchant for bullshit, would have been responsible for submitting his own bio and embellishing on it to make it sound better.

    You're telling me it is not likely that Obama had SOMETHING to do with the bullshit about himself? Please answer.
     
  7. Zeke12

    Zeke12 Guest

    At a certain level of nuttiness, we're all allowed to just point and laugh. Honestly. And you crossed that line.

    That said, here's much more than you deserve.

    It's an absolute nutjob conspiracy theory based on... Nothing. Not one thing.

    Barack Obama was profiled by nearly every major paper in the country when he was named editor of the Harvard Law Review. This mistake appears in none of the contemporaneous profiles.

    Here's the New York Times, in 1990:

    The Harvard Law Review, generally considered the most prestigious in the country, elected the first black president in its 104-year history today. The job is considered the highest student position at Harvard Law School.

    The new president of the Review is Barack Obama, a 28-year-old graduate of Columbia University who spent four years heading a community development program for poor blacks on Chicago's South Side before enrolling in law school. His late father, Barack Obama, was a finance minister in Kenya and his mother, Ann Dunham, is an American anthropologist now doing fieldwork in Indonesia. Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.


    Secondly, and I don't know how this isn't obvious, why would he lie about where he was born for a blurb for a book THAT EXPLAINED EXACTLY WHERE HE WAS BORN AND WHERE HE SPENT HIS CHILDHOOD?

    Do you get that that assertion is insane on its face? I mean, sure, the book was going to be published and available to anyone with a library card, but that sneaky Obama got his secret message out through intra-book-publisher advance notices.

    Right.
     
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    1) Dismissiveness -- you don't deserve a response. Nutjob conspiracy. . ... Thing is, I asked a simple question. No conspiracy. That pamphlet exists. No nutjobs. How did it come to exist? Simple, simple question. Where did it come from? Give me a likely explanation.

    2) You are not answering me. You are answering what you want to answer. The profiles have nothing to do with this. I am not questioning his background. I am speaking about the background he appears to have tweaked along the way to appear to be what he wanted to be--before anyone knew who he was.

    3) No, I don't get that that is insane on its face. Why? Well, that pamphlet for example. It exists. It didn't just pop up from the imagination of a literary agent assistant who decided to create a false biography. ... promote his dad to finance minister from clerk, graduate his mom a year early, and give Obama an exotic background. The idea that it didn't originate with Obama is insane.

    If I have gone around the bend, you missed the bend because of the blinders you put on yourself.
     
  9. Zeke12

    Zeke12 Guest

    He wrote the book. It says where he was born in the book. Why would he lie about where he was born in the blurb and not the book?

    Why would anyone write a blurb for a book that directly contradicts the facts laid out in the book?
     
  10. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    I'm waiting for Obama to come out against the birthers. Like same-sex marriage, we expect more from him than Romney.
     
  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    He never wrote the book. At least according to the original link. In fact, he was pitching a treatment. If I have that wrong, where can I find a first-edition 1991 or 1992 copy of "Journeys in Black and White" by Barack Obama?
     
  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Have you ever written a book?

    I have. I laughed at some of the stuff that came back on the initial book jacket and in some of the blurbs. Not biographical details, mind you, but stuff about what remarkable access I had to every important person. One of them talked to me for 15 minutes after a press conference. Another declined to speak at all. The rest were mostly normal dudes now that I just reached at their home, current team, or office.

    Third parties botch details. It's a proven fact. Besides the book jacket, almost every time I've been a source for a story, the reporter has screwed up some detail about me.

    Now, I don't think Ragu is being insane. And I certainly don't think he's a birther. But Zeke puts forth some pretty good evidence that Obama was pretty forthright about his birthplace contemporaneous to the book release.

    I stand by my initial assertion: The peripheral people involved in the book subconsciously wanted him to be as exotic and hard scrabble as possible, and talked themselves into variations on his life story that would accomplish that. It's like a subconscious "The Usual Suspects."
     
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