Louis CK

Well, I don't know if we recommend anything. It's not our life. He's got to live it.

He hasn't been convicted of anything, so anything past that is your personal beliefs on the matter.

 

When the women came forward and told their story I don't believe blocking the door was involved, Gawker blind item notwithstanding.

Also, I don't think the fact that his manager was upset that people were talking about Louis' conduct counts as blackballing them.

 

I figured his comeback would be feeding scripts and routines to other writers and comedians as a ghostwriter.

 

www.vulture.com/2017/11/louis-c-k-masturbation-allegations-a-timeline.html

Afterward, Goodman and Wolov say that C.K.’s manager Dave Becky told them to stop telling the story of the incident.

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In an interview with the Daily Beast, Roseanne Barr predicts that, after Bill Cosby, another male comic will get “busted.” She decides to name him: “It’s Louis C.K., locking the door and masturbating in front of women comics and writers. I can’t tell you — I’ve heard so many stories. Not just him, but a lot of them. And it’s just par for the course. It’s just shit women have to put up with.” Barr later clarifies in an email that she had no “first-hand knowledge” of the allegations, and was only reporting what she’d heard through the whisper network.

 

Pamela Adlon Fires 3 Arts’ Dave Becky Following Louis C.K. Harassment Claims

Becky apologized Monday for his handling of sexual misconduct claims leveled against his former client Louis C.K. In a story published last week by the New York Times detailing years of alleged sexual harassment by C.K. against multiple women, comedians Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov accused Becky of pressuring the two to not talk about their experience with C.K. Goodman and Wolov told the Times that C.K. masturbated in front of them, an incident that C.K. confirmed in a later statement.

 

I will take the victims' first-hand accounts over a Gawker blind item and "Roseanne Barr says she heard things."

And pressuring people not to talk about something is not blackballing them.

 

This puts me in the mind of the oft-shared meme on my Facebook feed denigrating NFL players that reads along the lines of 'I think men who wear a helmet defending our country deserve to earn more than men who wear a helmet defending a football.' It's a nice sentiment I guess, but it's not an equivalent comparison. I think Louis CK might be one of the five funniest comedians ever. I don't really have an answer for when or if he should ever be welcomed back or what amends he should make to get there. But his talent is infinitely less expendable than that of a cashier.

 

So we excuse the behavior if someone is talented?

 

We unquestionably do as a society in general. I don't know if he's been punished enough at this point, but the guy did lose out on TV deals and a movie. I'm not saying that makes up for what he did, but it's not like the guy just paused everything, went away for a year, and will resume his regularly scheduled success.

 

Az, you don't necessarily excuse the behavior. But in the same vein, you don't hold onto it long after the fact. There is -- no, there should be -- a statute of limitations on moral outrage.

Of course, I've never been a huge fan of moral outrage in general.

 

It's not really moral outrage. At least on my part. It's crisis management 101.

And don't forget, CK made lots of promises in his own apology.

Louis C.K. breaks silence in lengthy statement: 'These stories are true'

Including

I have spent my long and lucky career talking and saying anything I want. I will now step back and take a long time to listen.

 

The idea that we can regulate and/or standardize when someone has shown sufficient contrition for their bad behavior is pretty ridiculous.

Louis CK will be forgiven when the people paying to see him perform say so.