Louisiana public school actively promotes Christianity

Shoeless Joe, you seriously think parents having to show up at school to threaten a teacher into not bullying a child was better? Please tell me you don't really think that.

 

Yup. Just bully those people you have outnumbered into shutting up. Ain't that America for you and me?

Sorry, but being 99 percent Christian does NOT give a public school the right to trample over the other one percent. That kind of shit is exactly why the separation of church and state is so important.

 

No, I think a time when people getting out of line because they knew there were consequences was better.

Again. OFF. TOPIC. AND NOT MY FAULT.

 

Or, the whining of 1 does NOT require the 99 to silence their beliefs. No one is advocating for a state religion. But, the 99 shouldn't have to abstain from freely expressing themselves as long as they are not in some way forcing themselves on the 1. If the 1 chooses not to participate, sit quietly for 30 seconds, and observe your own beliefs. You don't always have to BE OFFENDED!

 

You were the one talking about how back in your day, certain actions in schools were considered appropriate and there weren't any lawsuits against it. I responded to your post and pointed out that the good old days weren't always so good and that lawsuits and the fear of them prevent many of the problems that had cropped up back in the day.

 

Spoken like somebody who has ZERO empathy for members of any religious minority.

Your claim was that it is okay for the majority to push its faith as long as the minority is small enough. I'm not sure you meant to advocate that point of view, but that is exactly how your post reads.

Now if you want to claim that it is just a very large group of individuals expressing themselves on their own, I could respect that argument. I think ignores the reality of the situation, but it's we can agree to disagree there.

But to say it is okay for the school to sanction a prayer just because the minority who would not participate in that religious display is too small to matter is unacceptable. As I said, it is EXACTLY the kind of abuse the separation of church and state exists to oppose. I don't care if it is one kid, his rights matter. Sorry, but American citizens do not lose their rights just because they are in a particularly small minority and yes, I am offended by any argument otherwise.

It isn't whining to stand up for your rights. It is something Americans are supposed to respect. And you do have to be offended when your rights are being violated. Every. Single. Time. It. Happens.

 

Shoeless Joe, let us imagine that for some unlikely reason your family moves to Dearborn. You're OK with all the prayers being in Arabic and God always being called Allah because the majority shouldn't be burdened with considering others, right?

 

Not going to get into a debate with you noted constitutional scholars and geniuses, but I want to know one thing... who wrote/edited this crappy AP story, and when did sixth grade become high school?

 

Let's leave coffee out of this. Coffee is not a weapon.

 

What if the teacher beats the shit out of the parent after throwing coffee in their face?

 

I might have lost track of what's being argued here, but the 1 vs. 99 debate is not why the ACLU, if its facts are accurate, is in the right on this one. They're in the right because the school is pushing religious theory -- and ultra dubious religious theory, to be kind -- as fact, to the point science tests have become akin to tests in Sunday school or Bible study. There's an acceptable place for religion in schools, but that ain't it. It'd be like a public school in Dearborn pushing the idea that the 9/11 hijackers were in fact holy martyrs.

 

Shoeless Joe, what I don't grasp is why it's so important to have prayers at football games and over morning announcements to begin with. I get the objections to teaching evolution and other science that conflicts with Scripture - you think it's inaccurate. But why the worship? It feels like an ego thing to me. "The gubmint doesn't tell us we can't pray!" Otherwise, isn't that what church is for? I love baseball. I don't expect my kid's school to debate the A.L. Central before social studies. That would be weird.