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Louisville Courier-Journal v. NCAA

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by The Rules of Golf, Jun 10, 2007.

  1. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    The question's rhetorical.
     
  2. Bob Slydell

    Bob Slydell Active Member

    BECAUSE NOT ALL BLOGS ARE THAT WAY!!!!!!! It's nt all play-by-play. Some do blog entries even before the game and discuss atmosphere. It's not about where you can do a blog, it's someone telling you can or can't blog.

    Seriously sports, are you just being difficult on purpose or are you really not getting why this is an issue.
     
  3. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    I know exactly why it's an issue. I'm in favor of the C-J fighting it.

    And I know ot all blogs are that way. But the one that Brian was kicked out of the pressbox for WAS that way. So it COULD have been done off a broadcast and been no different. They COULD have continued to stick it to the NCAA by blogging off the broadcast, had the exact same product, and then fought the same fight they are fighting now.

    If you want the blog to be unique, use your access to make it unique.

    And it's TSP, not sports.
     
  4. MertWindu

    MertWindu Active Member

    I think Sports was posing a purely academic question. That's the only way that makes sense, because I think we're all in agreeance [/fred durst] that the content of the blog is not at issue here, and that the amount of play-by-play in a blog should not be a determining factor in whether or not the blogger is allowed to continue in the box.
     
  5. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Exactly! I also wonder if some of these other blogs that are now being done on the CWS off broadcasts and whatnot are in direct response to the NCAA's actions. Kind of like, "Ha, we'll show YOU, NCAA. We don't need your access to put this stuff up!" And they don't.

    You DO need access to provide something unique, though.
     
  6. Bob Slydell

    Bob Slydell Active Member

    Whatever. TSP,

    Bennett's blog wasn't all play by play. He posted after an innng or so and told the score and hit some highlights, he also talked about who was warming up for OSU. And he offered some opinion. John Clay of the herald Leader blogs also, and he doesn;t do play by play, jut a few updates and some antecdotes.

    I still fail to see how blogging outside the press box would be stcking it to the NCAA. And it isn;t always feasible to do that. I like the way Bennett and the CJ did it. Try to pick a fight, it's one worth fighting.

    And why would you as a reporter trust someone else to get information to you like on a live broadcast? If they screw up, then you screw up. And it's your fault regardless of ow you got the information.

    If I listened to a basketball gamed and Joe Josckstrap breaks his leg, but the radio annuncer accidentally said Jim Gymshorts and I go with that I look like an idiot.

    To advcate going outsde the press box to do your job beause the NCAA said so is a litte head scratching. I'm glad Bennett had his bosses and not you backing him.
     
  7. Lugnuts

    Lugnuts Well-Known Member

    Today's NYT article said,

    Hey everybody, better watch out on those SportsJournalists.com running threads.

    The big bad NCAA's gonna come get you.
     
  8. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    It's funny that other sports organizations don't feel the same way as the NCAA.

    I wonder when the NCAA is going to be more consistent in its enforcement of its sugar daddies' "rights."
     
  9. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    There was nothing on it I read which couldn't have been gleaned from a vantage point outside the press box. In fact, with regards to Saturday's game, there were three references to seeing something on the ESPN broadcast.

    I don't fail to see at all. One, regarding Brian specifically, if he were to find another way to continue his blog without press box access, it would show the NCAA that their strong-arming tactics weren't going to work. With regard to the other places doing blogs off broadcasts, it would also show the NCAA they weren't going to be able to control journalists the way they think they are going to control journalists. They could still pick the exact same fight they are fighting now.

    Now, none of this speaks to the quality of blogs which simply provide info off the TV or radio broadcasts. I wouldn't rate the quality of those all that highly. But there is value in them.

    Not advocating that at all. I am in favor of fighting to stay in. But he was already out and not getting back in at that moment, so if the information is important, find another way to report it. The C-J chose not to do that.
     
  10. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    You do realize, TP, that blogging was only a secondary role for Bennett. He mainly was covering the game for the newspaper.

    And also, if you are going to sue the NCAA over access, it might help your case if you don't continue blogging with your face pressed to the fence.
     
  11. pseudo

    pseudo Well-Known Member

    Good Lord. So Joe Fanboy can blog all he wants from his couch, but someone with credentials can't do the same, no matter where they are. That's just awesome.

    Does the NCAA seriously not realize how <bleep>ing stupid they sound?
     
  12. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Why start now?
     
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