LSU frat members arrested for hazing death

Why wasn't he able to have a drink in four hours?

 

Because he had been in the courtroom that whole time. We checked security footage afterward out of curiosity.

 

It’s probably pretty rare, yes. Not rare enough.

 

SAE = same assholes everywhere

 

It happens. I have no doubt it happens. And I believe every word of it.
Our chapter lost its charter 15 years after I left due to unpaid dues and a rapid decline in membership. Many of the more recent alum, pointed that decline to ONE guy who attempted to haze the hell out of pledges.

We've had several chapters lose charters because of hazing including our Alpha (1st) chapter and another that was the shining star of the national fraternity.
It happens really easily. It just didn't happen when I was there.
I did a lot of stupid shit, but nothing like giving some kid alcohol poisoning and letting him die. That's not stupid. That's criminal.

 

Did you all read the Atlantic story on the Penn State hazing death? Long, but holy shit, the way they describe Piazza's last few hours makes me want to vomit. Everyone involved should rot in hell.

 

And the serious charges pretty much already have been dropped. Don't think any will get jail time.

 

That piece is flawed, in that it makes some really sweeping generalizations that it states as fact, but it is valuable, nonetheless. I have largely been a defender of the system, but it’s similar to the guns issue - at what point does my right to reap the benefits of a social fraternity simply not outweigh the fact that the system ensures more deaths like Tim Piazza’s. You are taking 18-to-21-year-old men who have never lived alone and putting them in a position where their immaturity and the mob mentality is going to lead to awful conclusions. The piece also points out an intractable problem in passing - fraternities must have zero tolerance for hazing. But zero tolerance for hazing leads to the kind of decision-making they killed Tim Piazza.

Maybe there was a time that young men were worldly enough by college that they could survive and thrive in this environment, and the system fostered the making of men the way it purports to. But in 2017, parents wipe their kids’ asses until they set foot on campus. Even the kids in this story aren’t necessarily monsters. They have been set up to fall.

I see the argument that at this point the system has outgrown its usefulness.