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Mad Men Season 5 running thread

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Steak Snabler, Jan 16, 2012.

  1. HC

    HC Well-Known Member

    I didn't think Peggy was told WHY Joan was made partner.
     
  2. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Peggy looking through the glass window was a pretty good summation on her thoughts.
     
  3. lantaur

    lantaur Well-Known Member

    Peggy has no idea why Joan was made partner. When Don mentioned it, Peggy was shocked, and Don explained it as Joan had been there 13 years, etc., etc.
     
  4. novelist_wannabe

    novelist_wannabe Well-Known Member

    This is what I was getting at. On one hand it simply further validates her decision to leave. On the other, I could see it paving the way toward a litany of sexual harassment lawsuits at some point, though I'll admit I'm not familiar enough with legal history to know when those started happening in large numbers. Was that part of the 60s culture, as well?
     
  5. NDub

    NDub Guest

    I think Don's long kiss on her hand wasn't just "I'm going to miss you because you're a great person" or "I'm going to miss you because you're a helluva worker who's now going to a rival firm" or whatever else, it was him knowing that she was making the right move to get ahead in the world. Considering how Joan had just "got ahead" in the world and Don's feelings of it, I think the kiss was him relieved that Peggy wouldn't have to do something like that to get ahead. Her ass-busting ethic and skill got her where she was headed.
     
  6. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    The concept of sexual harassment didn't even exist then.

    Remember, this is a pre-feminist world.
     
  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    I'm wondering if Joan's one-night stand is going to come back to haunt her with the divorce proceedings.

    Technically, they're still married, and I'm not sure how much the divorce laws changed in the few years since Betty had to go to Nevada to divorce Don.

    I'm wondering if Greg finds out somehow ("How did she become partner at the firm?" Pete: "Oh, she slept with the Jaguar guy. .. ooops") then challenges for custody of the baby (although women usually got that back then) to punish Joan, then, in the big bombshell, finds out that Roger is the father.
     
  8. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I'd much rather see Joan visited by a couple of Army soldiers dressed in their formals. Dr. Greg leaving her had a lot to do with the decision - it would be a little too soap operaish (not to mention a distraction) if that kind of storyline played out.
     
  9. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    It seems like Mad Men is more about living with the consequences more than having everything blow up.

    Joan spent every second of her working life cultivating a certain reputation, and she sold that reputation. The other partners know it, and she knows that they know it, and it's going to be the unspoken gorilla in the room every time she attends a meeting. Same as Draper's real identity.

    The only person who is going to have to deal with any actual consequences, as opposed to just a heavy conscience, is Lane.
     
  10. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    You notice how Cosgrove and Crane left Don's office after this? They could barely look at him or hide their contempt.

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  11. NDub

    NDub Guest

    Cosgrove especially. He seems to be the only non-asshole on the show, and we know he and Peggy have that "pact." He even stepped into her office to talk to her about it but she was so pissed that she basically kicked him out.
     
  12. SellOut

    SellOut Member

    I find Cosgrove the only one in there whose whole life isn't wrapped up in that office (well, him Stan Rizzo). And it's apparent and has been apparent the entire season that Don is starting to "lose it." Of course, then he goes in and crushes that presentation. I caught season 1 a couple weeks ago on a repeat and it's stunning the way Draper has aged. I know Hamm doesn't look like that in real life, but it's obvious all the boozing, stress, etc. is starting to eat away at him.
    Respect some of the opinions on here. Still not on board with the Joan thing. Like the stuff with Kinsey and Harry the week before, a little too soap operaish for my taste. The series takes such meticulous steps to get everything right about the period, i think the behavior of late has been a little over the top (2 guys fighting in a boardroom? Entertaining as hell, of course, but this isn't a Toughman contest).
     
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