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Mad Men season 7 thread

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Steak Snabler, Apr 14, 2014.

  1. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Give him his sendoff in a nice post-shooting party. Save the screentime for important stuff.
     
  2. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    I was fine with the sendoff because this I felt particular episode was so full and satisfying. I had high expectations coming into Sunday and MM exceeded them by quite a bit.
     
  3. ifilus

    ifilus Well-Known Member


    Matthew Weiner: I hope that people listen to the words to the song to some degree, and know that there is some bittersweetness to having all that material success. It is not really life. No one can own it.


    http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/mad-men-creator-matthew-weiner-on-singing-dancing-and-writing-the-series-finale#ofKtFpfLzyAgsk1i.99
     
  4. novelist_wannabe

    novelist_wannabe Well-Known Member

    As for Joan, Don didn't just cost her $1 million+ ruining the IPO (something he didn't even know was coming, if I remember correctly), but he did it by firing Jaguar. He thought Joan would approve of that considering what she did in order that SC&P could get Jaguar (and her partnership) in the first place. But she didn't want what she did to be completely brushed off as insignificant. After that, she was going to make certain everyone knew she is a serious partner at the firm, even as others, like Don and Roger and Cutler go rogue.
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    The Joan-Don thing fascinates me. He's the only one of the partners that has given her any respect. Tried to stop her from sleeping with the client but was too late, and I can't help but remember the bar scene when they share a drink near the end of last season. She's one of the few people he has given respect to. But now, she's ready to toss him aside. She's become just like all the other partners - "make me money, feelings be damned."
     
  5. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    You could say the same thing about his relationship with Peggy. Even though he monkeyed with her social life with the whole "send Ted to California" thing, he's about the only one who's recognized her worth and nurtured her from a professional standpoint.
     
  6. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Andy Greenwald nails another one.

    http://grantland.com/features/mad-men-amc-midseason-finale/

    He's got to be one of the best TV writers out there now.

    Yeah, like I said, as I saw that, I thought it was a real dick move on her part.
     
  7. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    Sure, but it goes back to Don firing Jaguar, which meant her act of sleeping with a sweaty fat guy was for nothing. It's not really about money. It's about the fact that he put(s) his ego ahead of everything. He didn't want to be dictated to be Jaguar, so he fired them, which made her feel more like a whore.
     
  8. SellOut

    SellOut Member

    I don't know. Joan's a big girl. I think she knew what she was getting into. Greenwald articulated the point I couldn't quite get to. And it's been what? A couple of years since that went down? She's still a partner. She's still getting paid. I'm all for her being "a man" about it but the other original partners (namely Pete) came around to Don's return. Why she didn't seemed to just make her a bitch. But then again, maybe that was the point. That she's empowered to be just as big of a dick as the guys are.
     
  9. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    There's nothing wrong with it being about the money. Her ability to provide long-term as a single mother is directly based on how much money she has. That's a little more important than a work friendship.
     
  10. JimmyHoward33

    JimmyHoward33 Well-Known Member

    The McCann deal got Joan plenty of money.....was she so short sighted as to think Don's Jaguar thing cost her all that money forever? She'd been around the various incarnations of SC long enough to know that even if the IPO Don blew up before Thanksgiving didn't take, her partnership would pay off in droves at some point.
     
  11. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Good lord, people will fall all over themselves to justify the assholery of Don Draper.
     
  12. Brian

    Brian Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty sure Weiner knew Cooper would die during the moon landing for years. Just too much in common with him memorializing Ida Blankenship as an astronaut when she died.

    - Larisa Oleynik, Linda Cardellini, Neve Campbell and now Kellie Martin? Weiner must've been a giant fan of early 1990s teen and family shows. Maybe we'll see Carlton Banks, JT Lambert and Corky Thatcher during the final run of episodes.
     
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