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Maddux, Glavine, Thomas elected to Baseball Hall of Fame; Biggio just misses

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Steak Snabler, Nov 26, 2013.

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Who will be elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame this year?

Poll closed May 25, 2014.

  1. Jeff Bagwell

    21 vote(s)
    29.2%

  2. Craig Biggio

    33 vote(s)
    45.8%

  3. Barry Bonds

    29 vote(s)
    40.3%

  4. Roger Clemens

    27 vote(s)
    37.5%

  5. Tom Glavine

    51 vote(s)
    70.8%

  6. Jeff Kent

    8 vote(s)
    11.1%

  7. Greg Maddux

    68 vote(s)
    94.4%

  8. Edgar Martinez

    9 vote(s)
    12.5%

  9. Don Mattingly

    8 vote(s)
    11.1%

  10. Fred McGriff

    5 vote(s)
    6.9%

  11. Mark McGwire

    7 vote(s)
    9.7%

  12. Jack Morris

    17 vote(s)
    23.6%

  13. Mike Mussina

    11 vote(s)
    15.3%

  14. Rafael Palmeiro

    5 vote(s)
    6.9%

  15. Mike Piazza

    20 vote(s)
    27.8%

  16. Tim Raines

    26 vote(s)
    36.1%

  17. Curt Schilling

    15 vote(s)
    20.8%

  18. Lee Smith

    9 vote(s)
    12.5%

  19. Sammy Sosa

    5 vote(s)
    6.9%

  20. Frank Thomas

    48 vote(s)
    66.7%

  21. Alan Trammell

    10 vote(s)
    13.9%

  22. Larry Walker

    4 vote(s)
    5.6%
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  1. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Murray Chass is tripling his vote, adding Maddux and Glavine to his holdover in Morris. He might vote for Thomas. Everyone else is connected to PEDs in some way in his eyes.
     
    Della9250, Dec 26, 2013
    #385
  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Maybe he didn't think about it.
     
    Dick Whitman, Dec 26, 2013
    #386
  3. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Apart from wins what did Glavine do considerably better than Mussina? He also pitched in an inferior league.
     
    JC, Dec 26, 2013
    #387
  4. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    900 mor innings, right? That matters. And I love Mussina as a candidate.
     
    Dick Whitman, Dec 26, 2013
    #388
  5. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    The innings pitched do matter. Also, as I already explained, Glavine's prime was better. I'm still waiting for Versatile or anybody else to tell me how often they actually think Mussina was even one of the top five pitchers in his league or in all of MLB for a given season.
     
    outofplace, Dec 26, 2013
    #389
  6. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    from 1992-1999 he finished in the top 5 of Cy Young voting 5 times doesn't that make him a top 5 pitcher in his league?
     
    heyabbott, Dec 26, 2013
    #390
  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    I asked the question. Nobody wanted to answer. How many times was he considered among the top five pitchers in MLB?

    He still wasn't as good as Glavine during that run.

    I'm not saying Mussina doesn't belong. I'm saying Glavine was better and the numbers, including the two Cy Young Awards, back me up on that.
     
    outofplace, Dec 26, 2013
    #391
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    You said "in his league," not "in MLB."
     
    Dick Whitman, Dec 26, 2013
    #392
  9. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Maybe it's because I watched a lot of AL East, but I thought Mussina was a top 5 pitcher for many years. He seemed to lose a lot of 3-2 ballgames on a Baltimore team that could not score.

    Absolutely could not stand the guy, he was an epic asshole...but an excellent pitcher.
     
    Elliotte Friedman, Dec 26, 2013
    #393
  10. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    And a lot of 1-0 or 2-1 games to Pedro. There seemed to be a stretch where they were matching up against each other every time they played. Silly as it is, turn a couple of those 19 win seasons into 20, and he probably does better in HOF, and Cy Young voting.
     
    Guy_Incognito, Dec 26, 2013
    #394
  11. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Agreed.
     
    JC, Dec 26, 2013
    #395
  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Actually, I asked about both, but don't let the facts get in the way of your trolling.
     
    outofplace, Dec 26, 2013
    #396
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