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Maddux, Glavine, Thomas elected to Baseball Hall of Fame; Biggio just misses

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Steak Snabler, Nov 26, 2013.

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Who will be elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame this year?

Poll closed May 25, 2014.

  1. Jeff Bagwell

    21 vote(s)
    29.2%

  2. Craig Biggio

    33 vote(s)
    45.8%

  3. Barry Bonds

    29 vote(s)
    40.3%

  4. Roger Clemens

    27 vote(s)
    37.5%

  5. Tom Glavine

    51 vote(s)
    70.8%

  6. Jeff Kent

    8 vote(s)
    11.1%

  7. Greg Maddux

    68 vote(s)
    94.4%

  8. Edgar Martinez

    9 vote(s)
    12.5%

  9. Don Mattingly

    8 vote(s)
    11.1%

  10. Fred McGriff

    5 vote(s)
    6.9%

  11. Mark McGwire

    7 vote(s)
    9.7%

  12. Jack Morris

    17 vote(s)
    23.6%

  13. Mike Mussina

    11 vote(s)
    15.3%

  14. Rafael Palmeiro

    5 vote(s)
    6.9%

  15. Mike Piazza

    20 vote(s)
    27.8%

  16. Tim Raines

    26 vote(s)
    36.1%

  17. Curt Schilling

    15 vote(s)
    20.8%

  18. Lee Smith

    9 vote(s)
    12.5%

  19. Sammy Sosa

    5 vote(s)
    6.9%

  20. Frank Thomas

    48 vote(s)
    66.7%

  21. Alan Trammell

    10 vote(s)
    13.9%

  22. Larry Walker

    4 vote(s)
    5.6%
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  1. Screwball

    Screwball Active Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    The Hall of Fame can lift the restriction against voting for anyone on the "permanently ineligible" list without MLB removing him from that list.
     
    Screwball, Dec 27, 2013
    #433
  2. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Yes, but they take their cues on the matter from MLB. He wouldn't be banned from the Hall if he wasn't banned from MLB.
     
    Steak Snabler, Dec 27, 2013
    #434
  3. Screwball

    Screwball Active Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Fair enough. If Selig actually does retire, Rose might have a chance.
     
    Screwball, Dec 27, 2013
    #435
  4. BB Bobcat

    BB Bobcat Active Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Tangent to this years HOF debate, but Id be OK with Rose getting in if his plaque said something like "as a manager, bet on baseball and accepted a lifetime ban yada yada" and he was still barred from ever working for a team.

    I think that's a good compromise between punishing him for what he did and still recognizing what he did as a player.
     
    BB Bobcat, Dec 27, 2013
    #436
  5. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Barry Rozner becomes the first known split vote on Bonds/Clemens. He voted for Bonds but not Clemens.

    http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20131227/sports/712279951/

    Doesn't say why and votes for every other major pitcher available.
     
    Della9250, Dec 27, 2013
    #437
  6. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    I think that would be a great way to do it. Induct him, but make sure no one ever forgets what he did.

    I don't know if you could do that with the PED guys.
     
    Mizzougrad96, Dec 27, 2013
    #438
  7. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    I would have no problem doing it with the guys who were actually suspended -- the Palmeiros, Manny, Braun, A-Rod's of the world. But for the others, I don't know how you could do it.
     
    Della9250, Dec 27, 2013
    #439
  8. BB Bobcat

    BB Bobcat Active Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    That's one of the problems with the whole steroids thing, that there is no easy line to draw. There are guys all along the spectrum from "100 percent cheated" and "suspected." Everyone has a right to draw their line anywhere, but it's impossible to get a consensus.
     
    BB Bobcat, Dec 27, 2013
    #440
  9. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    That's where we disagree. Unfortunately, you have voters punishing guys for PED use and they draw the line at "somebody, somewhere accused the guy of doing it." I don't know how it gets fixed, other than perhaps shaming voters who abuse the privilege, but it's gotten to be a joke when guys like Craig Biggio are being left off ballots for suspicion of PED use.
     
    outofplace, Dec 27, 2013
    #441
  10. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    It's funny and illuminating how the true analysts of the thread try to work around the trolls. Soldier on, friends. Soldier on.
     
    jr/shotglass, Dec 27, 2013
    #442
  11. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    If you are leaving guys off your ballot for the suspicions of PED use, your ballot should be blank.
     
    JC, Dec 27, 2013
    #443
  12. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Pete Abraham splits Bonds-Clemens by flipping a coin because of a full ballot and strategic voting. Went with Clemens
     
    Della9250, Dec 27, 2013
    #444
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