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Maddux, Glavine, Thomas elected to Baseball Hall of Fame; Biggio just misses

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Steak Snabler, Nov 26, 2013.

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Who will be elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame this year?

Poll closed May 25, 2014.

  1. Jeff Bagwell

    21 vote(s)
    29.2%

  2. Craig Biggio

    33 vote(s)
    45.8%

  3. Barry Bonds

    29 vote(s)
    40.3%

  4. Roger Clemens

    27 vote(s)
    37.5%

  5. Tom Glavine

    51 vote(s)
    70.8%

  6. Jeff Kent

    8 vote(s)
    11.1%

  7. Greg Maddux

    68 vote(s)
    94.4%

  8. Edgar Martinez

    9 vote(s)
    12.5%

  9. Don Mattingly

    8 vote(s)
    11.1%

  10. Fred McGriff

    5 vote(s)
    6.9%

  11. Mark McGwire

    7 vote(s)
    9.7%

  12. Jack Morris

    17 vote(s)
    23.6%

  13. Mike Mussina

    11 vote(s)
    15.3%

  14. Rafael Palmeiro

    5 vote(s)
    6.9%

  15. Mike Piazza

    20 vote(s)
    27.8%

  16. Tim Raines

    26 vote(s)
    36.1%

  17. Curt Schilling

    15 vote(s)
    20.8%

  18. Lee Smith

    9 vote(s)
    12.5%

  19. Sammy Sosa

    5 vote(s)
    6.9%

  20. Frank Thomas

    48 vote(s)
    66.7%

  21. Alan Trammell

    10 vote(s)
    13.9%

  22. Larry Walker

    4 vote(s)
    5.6%
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  1. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Because with so many candidates the good ballots are the norm. Full ballots are making up nearly 90 percent of those revealed
     
    Della9250, Jan 2, 2014
    #541
  2. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    I wonder at what point will we be in a situation where all of the top candidates will be rumored or proven PED users.
     
    Mizzougrad96, Jan 2, 2014
    #542
  3. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Since basically everyone who played from 1988-2005 is at least "rumored" to be a PED user, I'd say we're there now.
     
    Michael_ Gee, Jan 2, 2014
    #543
  4. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    I don't think it will happen, looking at future ballots. Raines will be sticking around for a while, along with Schilling. In 2016, you have Griffey and Pedro, I think. In 2017, you have Vlad Guerrero. In 2018, you have Thome, Chipper, and probably Johan Santana.
     
    Dick Whitman, Jan 2, 2014
    #544
  5. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Griffey's another whose lack of PED suspicion always baffled me. Yeah, he was never super-bulked-up, but he also missed huge chunks of his Reds tenure with ligament and tendon injuries, which is also a symptom of steroid use (the muscles bulk up but the ligaments and tendons do not, and thus are prone to tearing).

    I'm not saying Junior used, but I don't think we can say we're 100 percent certain he didn't, either.
     
    Steak Snabler, Jan 2, 2014
    #545
  6. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    People have floated rumors about Thome here and elsewhere, though they really have no basis in facts.
     
    outofplace, Jan 2, 2014
    #546
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Thome used to get made fun of by his teammates for not cheating on his wife.
     
    Dick Whitman, Jan 2, 2014
    #547
  8. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Well, it looks like Maddux, Glavine, Thomas and Biggio will get in. None of them fall into the PED category. That will change if Piazza makes it.
     
    Mizzougrad96, Jan 2, 2014
    #548
  9. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Do all PED users commit adultery?
     
    JC, Jan 2, 2014
    #549
  10. BB Bobcat

    BB Bobcat Active Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    I am not willing to say anyone is clean. Again, that's why I don't bother to attempt to draw a line.

    I pick players based on how dominant their stats were relative to their era. Period.
     
    BB Bobcat, Jan 2, 2014
    #550
  11. Morris816

    Morris816 Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    Rob Neyer poses the question as to what is the difference between steroids and greenies and why is one a strike against players' HOF worthiness and not the other:

    http://www.baseballnation.com/2013/12/30/5255996/mlb-baseball-drugs-peds-steroids-amphetamines-greenies-hall-fame
     
    Morris816, Jan 2, 2014
    #551
  12. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot released

    It's too bad there weren't more voters like you.

    It's mind boggling that after so many writers that were made to look like fools are still naive enough to believe that any player is clean. Just leave it out of the story, if they haven't tested positive treat every player the same. The people who aren't voting for suspected PED cheats shouldn't be voting for anybody. Just because they were nice to you or didn't cheat on their wives does not make them clean.
     
    JC, Jan 2, 2014
    #552
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