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Maddux, Glavine, Thomas elected to Baseball Hall of Fame; Biggio just misses

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Steak Snabler, Nov 26, 2013.

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Who will be elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame this year?

Poll closed May 25, 2014.
  1. Jeff Bagwell

    21 vote(s)
    29.2%
  2. Craig Biggio

    33 vote(s)
    45.8%
  3. Barry Bonds

    29 vote(s)
    40.3%
  4. Roger Clemens

    27 vote(s)
    37.5%
  5. Tom Glavine

    51 vote(s)
    70.8%
  6. Jeff Kent

    8 vote(s)
    11.1%
  7. Greg Maddux

    68 vote(s)
    94.4%
  8. Edgar Martinez

    9 vote(s)
    12.5%
  9. Don Mattingly

    8 vote(s)
    11.1%
  10. Fred McGriff

    5 vote(s)
    6.9%
  11. Mark McGwire

    7 vote(s)
    9.7%
  12. Jack Morris

    17 vote(s)
    23.6%
  13. Mike Mussina

    11 vote(s)
    15.3%
  14. Rafael Palmeiro

    5 vote(s)
    6.9%
  15. Mike Piazza

    20 vote(s)
    27.8%
  16. Tim Raines

    26 vote(s)
    36.1%
  17. Curt Schilling

    15 vote(s)
    20.8%
  18. Lee Smith

    9 vote(s)
    12.5%
  19. Sammy Sosa

    5 vote(s)
    6.9%
  20. Frank Thomas

    48 vote(s)
    66.7%
  21. Alan Trammell

    10 vote(s)
    13.9%
  22. Larry Walker

    4 vote(s)
    5.6%
  1. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Biggio was two votes, since they wouldn't have rounded up apparently. There was one blank ballot submitted.

    And Mattingly falls off the ballot in the next vote, so Manky can save his tears for then.
     
  2. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Kind of surprised Jeff Kent was pretty much overlooked.

    Not many better 2B during my lifetime.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/kentje01.shtml
     
  3. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    He made few friends (not that that should matter).
     
  4. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Exactly. It shouldn't matter.
     
  5. Captain_Kirk

    Captain_Kirk Well-Known Member

    And yet it does. Way too much.
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    It doesn't. I can't think of anyone who didn't get in because he was dickish to the media.

    I don't understand why McGwire gets 1/3 of the support of Clemens and Bonds. Like them, he is a no-doubter without PEDs.
     
  7. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    50 percent of ballots were full. 22 percent were full in 2013.
     
  8. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    It's long, long Bryan Curtis. But the very last item of this treatise really nails a lot of things.

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10261642/mlb-hall-fame-voting-steroid-era
     
  9. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Mustaches matter.

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  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I don't agree with Le Batard, particularly this passage:

    I hate all the moralizing we do in sports in general, but I especially hate the hypocrisy in this: Many of the gatekeeper voters denying Barry Bonds Hall Of Fame entry would have they themselves taken a magical, healing, not-tested-for-in-their-workplace elixir if it made them better at their jobs, especially if lesser talents were getting the glory and money.

    Is this really how we should make this determination, by comparing players to a hypothetical, fantasy situation we might find ourselves in, and figure out how we would react? What "hypocrisy" does Le Batard see except for that which he has conjured?

    He also leaves out some key details. Is the elixir illegal? Does the elixir cause frightening side effects? Does the elixir come with a decades-long track record of being a known no-no in the workplace?

    Whatever. A pro athlete could shoot an umpire in the head over a called strike three, and we all know that Le Batard would be the first to rationalize it.
     
  11. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    The public admission, I suppose.

    But yeah, the argument that McGwire's career doesn't merit induction even if he'd never used PEDs is ridiculous. True, most of his value was in hitting home runs. You could say the same about Harmon Killebrew and Ernie Banks.
     
  12. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    He is?
     
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