Malcolm Gladwell: The unheard story of David and Goliath

da man · Oct 29, 2013

MisterCreosote said:

Who does Jesus thank after he scores a touchdown?
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Dad.

Of course, when the cameras come around for a shot on the sideline, he still yells, "Hi, Mom!"

MisterCreosote · Oct 29, 2013

You know, that Bathsheba had some big breasts.

YankeeFan · Oct 29, 2013

Jesus knew Pontius Pilatus, and had bought meth from him in the past.

MisterCreosote · Oct 29, 2013

Jesus preferred alcohol over marijuana.

heyabbott · Oct 29, 2013

Jacob always went for the fake.

da man · Oct 29, 2013

And ol' coach Moses had a pretty good staff.

amraeder · Oct 29, 2013

da man said:

And ol' coach Moses had a pretty good staff.
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coach Moses was great between the 20s, but couldn't come through once they got close to the promised land.

LongTimeListener · Oct 29, 2013

Moses' team would have scored up the middle last night, bet your ass on that.

heyabbott · Oct 29, 2013

LongTimeListener said:

Moses' team would have scored up the middle last night, bet your ass on that.
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He could split the line better than anyone

Yodel · Oct 29, 2013

heyabbott said:

KJIM said:

TheSportsPredictor said:

I'd be shocked to find out a Bible story isn't true.
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There's no point in his talk that he contradicts the story that's written in the Bible, though. He reinforces it and brings attention to another layer that was there all along.

Yes, David was a skinny kid armed with a sling and Goliath was a big-ass warrior.

But David, and he made this argument to Saul, was a pro. He'd guarded sheep, perfecting his aim, and he'd brought down quicker things than the bis-ass warrior. Many things.

If you read the text, David had no doubt he'd make the shot. Gladwell is right in that it's not an underdog story. In the Bible, it doesn't say it's an underdog story, though. That's what someone else told you. If you believed it, well, you can always go back and study it.

When you read or hear the story as a kid, you take it at face value, but if you really study it, the translations, the culture and such, you discover it's deeper than you've been told.

A lot of Bible stories are like that. And there are also many stories that have been embellished as time's passed. But if you go back to the text itself, its not what you might have been told or seen depicted popularly. (Such as wise men visiting the Christ child in a stable -- that is WAY off.)
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Gladwell makes the case that Goliath was an infantryman, immobile and bogged down in heavy armor with weapons designed for hand-to-hand combat. David was smarter, mobile, unencumbered and had, in essence, artillery. Not only was David an unlikely underdog, he should have been the favorite.

Gladwell also tries to make the case that Goliath suffered from diseases that left him close to blind and needed a guide to get to the field of battle. He couldn't even get a fixed position on where David was when he took the shot heard round the world.

Like the Genesis story, the flood, the Virgin birth and a Messiah, there are probably dozens of stories like David and Goliath in dozens of ancient cultures. Part of the Genius of the Jewish faith is eventually the Jewish stories were not only reduced to writings from oral retellings, but organized into a unified bible. The perseverance of the Jewish faith and people to maintain an early bronze age religion into the modern times is the real miracle of the bible.
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The greater miracle is that God continues to use His word to convert men and women of all races into the faith.

cranberry · Oct 29, 2013

Yodel said:

The greater miracle is that God continues to use His word to convert men and women of all races into the faith.
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Sort of like David Ortiz in Game 4.

Baron Scicluna · Oct 29, 2013

Cain was jealous of Abel for winning the big one twice.

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