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Re: Running Derek Jeter Thread

Wasn't seriously arguing this - not interested. Just making a crack that Castilla wasn't very good outside Colorado.

 

Re: Running Derek Jeter Thread

When people think of ARod they think of steroids and eccentric (trying to put it nicely) behavior.

Jeter's name conjures up words like <i>champion</i>, <i>smooth</i>, <i>classy</i>, and <i>clutch</i>.

 

Re: Running Derek Jeter Thread

That's you. Give it a few years and the numbers and MVP awards will overwhelm the made-up Captain Intangibles crap that you and some other fanboys try to credit Jeter with.

If he was really classy, he wouldn't stick up for one teammate, then abandon another because he is jealous of the guy's talent.

 

Re: Running Derek Jeter Thread

What makes you think he's jealous? Just because ARod hits the ball over the fence more often?

If you've read Buster Olney's book there are quotes from several Yankees attesting that Jeter could be a 30-40 homer per year guy if he chose to. Obviously he contributes in other ways...In 2000 there were dozens of guys that could hit 30+ homers, he had a rarer skill - posting on base percentages of .400 or better at the top of the lineup and stealing 30 or more bases a year.

ARod chose to roid up. He needs to own that. What Jeter has to do with that, I have no idea.

 

Re: Running Derek Jeter Thread

Jeter < Chipper

 

Re: Running Derek Jeter Thread

Thanks for the history lesson on Lennon. He's your idol, fine...but I've never cared to read up on the life of a singer who had about a half dozen good songs. In terms of talent I'd put him on the same level as maybe George Michael.

 

Re: Running Derek Jeter Thread

Manky, you can't let this stand, can you? In fact, I think you and skippy need to battle it out day and night on a special thread and leave the rest of us alone.

And Jetes was the real fifth Beatle. FACT!

 

Re: Running Derek Jeter Thread

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ycn-9449457

A tribute to Jeter and Rivera from a Red Sox sabermetrician.

 

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He's not a sabermetrician...

 

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The note at the end says the author is knowledgeable in the "analytics that contributes to a better appreciation of player and team contributions". Sounds like Bill James has written an article using a pen name.

 

Re: Running Derek Jeter Thread

Fixed that for ya.

Pretty much all of those things are as likely as Derek Jeter hitting 40 home runs in a season. He never came close. If he could have done it, he would have. He couldn't. Deal with it.

Let's see. Why would Jeter be jealous.

The three MVP awards would be a place to start. So is the fact that Rodriguez was a MUCH better shortstop than Jeter. It was never even close.

Oh, but Manky wanted to tell us about Jeter's on-base percentage. Funny thing. Even though Jeter has the higher career average (.313 to .303), Rodriguez has the higher on-base percentage (.386-.383). Oh, and Jeter the great leadoff man? He has fewer runs scored than Rodriguez, too. Rodriguez has 1,823 to Jeter's 1,768.

Oh, and those steals? Even though Jeter spent much of his career batting first or second while Rodriguez was in the heart of the order, Captain Intangibles only has 34 more steals (339-305). Doesn't quite make up for the advantage of nearly 400 home runs that Rodriguez has over your hero, does it?

Five minutes on baseballreference.com, Manky. If you're going to keep this foolishness up, please at least make an effort next time, ok? Even I'm getting bored with this.

Scream steroids all you want, but everybody knows Alex Rodriguez has been a much better player than your hero Jeter could have ever dreamed of being.

 

Re: Running Derek Jeter Thread

To truly answer the question of who was better we'd have to know what ARod's career would look like without chemical enhancement. And who knows.