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Mass shooting on campus in Oregon

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Gator, Oct 1, 2015.

  1. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Thanks. Sunshine will appreciate that.
     
  2. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    How unreasonable. Sigh.

    This. Jesus. I'm so sick of the argument that these madmen and criminals will still get their hands on guns or that creating new restrictions won't fix problem. Anything we do to make it it more difficult to acquire a firearm is a plus. I fully support gun ownership, but something has to be done, and screening purchasers more stringently and restricting the power/capacity of the weapons doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
     
  3. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    I would agree that a more stringent screening process isn't a bad idea but anyone who thinks it's going prevent some idiot from getting his hands on a gun that's already in a private owner's hands is an idiot.

    Restricting the power/capacity doesn't make a shooting victim any less dead either.
     
  4. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    But the idiot would at least have to work for it and not just run down to the gun show and buy one. He/she would have to risk stealing it or hit the streets and find one on the black market. And limiting capacity would limit the number of casualties at least.
     
  5. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Or just borrow one from a friend/family member. Or use the one he already owned before he went nuts.
     
  6. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    This is not solely a gun control issue; you're just dealing with the supply side there.

    This mirrors the "war on drugs"; how'd hunting all the suppliers go? Did it solve the problem? No. It just jacked up prices and motivated more people to exploit the economic benefits of being a supplier.

    IMHO, its primarily a demand side issue; what are we doing about that? The motivation to purchase one? The motivation to use one to kill people? You can do all you can to eliminate the supply but if the demand doesn't decrease? Other suppliers will fill the void.

    Its going to take a large amount of resources and time but we need to work on the societal issues; the ostracizing of people, the intolerance of them. What is seemingly consistent is that the shooters are out of the mainstream and feel lost without a touchstone to ground them.
     
  7. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    As a nation, we train thousands upon thousands of people each year for our military. Many of them are probably told their weapon is their most important thing. I'm sure this has something to do with our demand for weapons; we create many of the buyers.

    Register guns like cars. Make selling them or gifting illegal without notifying the government. And all owners should be registered as well.

    Might not have done anything in this case, but it should cut down things without limiting anyone's weapons. Well, unless you are a felon and should not have one anyway.
     
  8. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Take the mindset the GOP takes with minority voters; make it harder for them to do something and less people will do it.
     
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  9. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    Of course. So let's just not try ANYTHING to slow this madness. Sounds like a plan.
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    What percentage of shootings are committed by ex-military? Very few, I bet. The guys who respect firepower the most.
     
  11. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    Gutter, Smallpotatoes and Stoney like this.
  12. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Not just with minority voters. Abortion too.

    Abortions don't kill fetuses, people kill fetuses, right?
     
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