Maybe Bush not quite as "faith-based" as he would have us think?

Suckers.

 

Will there be fallout from this (other than Nucular?) No.. The guy's approval ratings suck, but he's not going anywhere and the Republicans will still hold Congress, so get ready for two more years of fun...

 

I don't think most blacks are batshit nuts.

 

Further proof that there's no intelligent life in Hondo's universe.

 

I treat with contempt anyone who would legislate his or her own morality -- and pack me and my brothers off to hell thencewith -- according to the Book of Haggai or some other such crap.

 

Well, then your brain is failing to work Hondo. I myself am religious. I believe in God and I know where I stand with him. What I hold in disdain is organized religion, which so often is filled with the same hypocracy that invades the rest of society. I also hold in disdain those Christians who trumpet their faith in such a way that anyone who dares differ from them and their beliefs is automatically branded.

For instance, anyone who deigns to compare, even loosely, Christiany-based horrors (they were there, try the Crusades, for starters) to Muslim terrorists is automatically branded as someone who hates Christians and God by many of the conservatives on this board.

 

i'm trying to figure out how being a good person of faith automatically makes you a good person overall? because it sure as shit doesn't come close. but many christians (living in the south as I am) believe that because they are good christians, they are also good people, and they have contempt for anyone not like them - whether it's out in the open or not.

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that your insult was probably uncalled for, given the phrasing JR chose.

Bible thumpers are to real Christians as the And 1 guys are to NBA players.

 

The response I get frequently from some of you when I compare, for instance, the sexual conduct of Republicans to that of Clinton or Ted Kennedy, is "that's now relevant to what is happening now."

Okay, to use your line of logic, comparing atrocities committed by Muslim extremists to the Crusades is out the window. Not a valid comparison, according to most of you, because of the timing. In that case, your linking of Muslim extremists to fundamentalist Christians is apalling, nonsensical and grossly insulting to Christians, since the death count is about five abortion doctors attributed to a handful of nuts to tens of thousands killed by many more Muslim extremists, and much more suffering brought upon the world. Darfur, for example. There is nothing remotely in the same universe as that genocide in comparing it to any other religion.

 

How dare you say that, you rotten heathen!

 

hondo,

The thing is, if you gave more power and government backing to the wacko Christian fundamentalists, they would become like the taliban and others.

It wouldn't be long before people would be whipped in the streets and non-Christians would be ostracized.

 

I'm a Christian, in the South. The deep South. The people I know in my church (don't know them all -- fair to middling size church) believe they are good Christians but not only believe they are good people but are good people. And they don't have contempt for people not like them. They try to reach out to people not like them. We have active meals on wheels and Habitat for Humanity programs, have a soup kitchen and our youth give me great optimism for the future, if most other kids have similar attitudes on life.

If you're not of our belief system, we try to tell you about ours when we get the chance. I don't know of a single person at much church who would tell someone: "you're going to hell," if they said they didn't share our belielfs. We might pray for them. But we wouldn't condemn them. That's for a higher authority to decide.

But some of you would treat people, good people, like those in my church, with utter disdain and scorn. It gets old after awhile. Especially when we sense that we're getting treated with more disdain and scorn than the small, fringe element of another religion who are actually out there killing and maiming in a perverted, distorted view of their religion. (Note the many disclaimers in the previous sentence for those of you who think I'm lumping the few extremists with the billions of good, peaceful people of that faith).

If you have such a blatant disregard for religion, by all means, feel free to not enter a church. But don't question my intellect or intelligence, or that of anyone else, because they've made that very personal decision. And those of you who do, remember one thing: there have been polls that put the percentage of the world's population that believes in a supreme being or deity at 95 percent.

You're sort of in the minority there.