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'Me, too'

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Oct 15, 2017.

  1. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

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  2. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Of course not.

    As I've said, if you specify an accused, you have to temper the assertion with 'alleged/alleges/claims' etc.

    Same for the President Obama hypothetical.
     
  3. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Azrael, I know you're going to do everything to cling to your point, but it is not possible to be more incorrect on what's really a straightforward matter of language.
     
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  4. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Why?
     
  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Because then it's an accusation.

    And could put your publication at risk of a libel suit.
     
  6. typefitter

    typefitter Well-Known Member

    1) I'm agreeing that "revealed" is stronger than "claims" or "alleges."

    2) I think substituting "says" into that sentence doesn't change it, or if it does, not very much.

    3) I agree with @Azrael that a specific accusation needs to be more carefully handled.

    4) Our collective default, when a woman says she was sexually assaulted, should be to believe her. (This should probably be No. 1.)

    5) So I'm not as offended by that sentence as I would be by, say, "Reese Witherspoon revealed that [specific name] is a closet Nazi."
     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    That’s what matters???!!!
     
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  8. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    I'm not clinging to anything.

    As I've said repeatedly, "reveals" is imperfect.
     
  9. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Certainly one of the things that matters when these editorial decisions are getting made. Right?

    I mean, we're talking about journalism, yes?
     
  10. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    You can get sued, and lose, whether you name someone or not.
     
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  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Except when a potential libel suit looms?

    I guess I don’t see a principled distinction.

    Agree with you that “says” could imply the truth of the statement, as well.
     
  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    No Dick.

    That's why you use the word 'alleges.'
     
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