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Meanwhile on the International front....

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by DanOregon, Apr 28, 2023.

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  1. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    I don’t think folks think the majority of younger people will vote for Trump. One of the concerns is that they won’t vote at all. They might not be excited about Biden enough to make the effort.
     
    Oggiedoggie, Dec 19, 2023
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  2. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    What LBJ's ads said in '64 will be true in '24.

    "The stakes are too high for you to stay home."
     
    garrow, Dec 19, 2023
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  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Any action or inaction that helps Trump in by people who want to help the Palestinians reaches that special level of stupid and ignorant.

    Besides, I don't think anybody was excited about voting for Biden in 2020, but enough got out too vote for him to win, anyway.
     
    outofplace, Dec 19, 2023
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  4. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    https://wapo.st/484GxoO

    According to the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ), at least 64 journalists have been killed in the Israel-Gaza war; 57 were Palestinian, four were Israeli and three were Lebanese. This war “has been the deadliest conflict for journalists that CPJ has ever recorded, in terms of documenting attacks on the press,” CPJ President Jodie Ginsberg said in an interview with the New Yorker.

    For context, nearly as many journalists have been killed in two months in Gaza as were killed worldwide in 2022.

    It’s not just that the journalists are being killed: Some believe they have been explicitly targeted, even outside Gaza.
     
    Azrael, Dec 19, 2023
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  5. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Some believe? Who? And what evidence do they have to support that belief?
     
    outofplace, Dec 19, 2023
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  6. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    A media freedom group accuses Israel and Hamas of war crimes and reports deaths of 34 journalists

    Israeli politicians call for journalists in Gaza to be killed

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...ournalist-lebanon-targeted-strike-2023-10-29/

    Journalists in south Lebanon say targeted in Israeli strikes

    CPJ calls for accountability after reports find Israel likely targeted journalists in Lebanon - Committee to Protect Journalists

    Israel’s War on Journalists

    From before the war:

    Israel is regularly accused of targeting journalists

    Israel: UN concludes that IDF "intentionally or recklessly" killed Palestinian journalist Shireen Abu Akleh / IFJ

    Israel will not cooperate with FBI inquiry into killing of Palestinian American journalist

    https://forensic-architecture.org/i...bu-akleh-the-targeted-killing-of-a-journalist
     
    Azrael, Dec 19, 2023
    #1338
  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Azrael, Dec 19, 2023
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  8. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Some of that looks like real smoke. Some of it is more a matter of blowing smoke.
     
    outofplace, Dec 19, 2023
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  9. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    But what if one is blowing real smoke?

    OOP's mind = Poof.
     
    Twirling Time, Dec 20, 2023
    #1341
  10. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

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    Songbird, Dec 20, 2023
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  11. justgladtobehere

    justgladtobehere Well-Known Member

    You sure about that? You are on private property. And where is the clever public defender that has challenged these searches successfully, a result that would scare off stores from continuing the practice?
     
    justgladtobehere, Dec 20, 2023
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  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I'm sure about legally how it should be. But I am not sure about anything when it comes to what any given court will rule.

    The way it should be legally: They can tell you to get off their property and not come back (what I said in the last part of the post), but if they forcefully stop you from leaving if you refuse to show a receipt, or they try to search you without probable cause (same standard the police would have), what they are doing should be criminal -- false imprisonment. i.e. -- unless they witness you actually committing a crime (stealing from them), they have no right to forcefully detain you.

    The rub is what the court it ends up in front of will do the pervert the "probable cause" standard. And I have no idea if in practice any given court has ever ruled refusing to show a receipt constitutes probable cause. It shouldn't be, but there have been bigger perversions than that, so I wouldn't be surprised.
     
    The Big Ragu, Dec 20, 2023
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