Merged: The Imus threads

Re: Best Imus take I've read

If you can't understand why Imus doesn't have the same freedom of speech as a comedian performing in a comedy club then you are just stupid, point blank. I'm not debating with you over what is and is not offensive, people find different things to be offensive and not everybody is offended by the same things. The point is that Imus and any other person who is hosting a live talk radio show is held to a different standard than a comedian performing in a nightclub, I'm confused as to why you are having a hard time understanding that. I'm not saying that some of the things comedians and rappers say aren't offensive, I'm saying that you can't say the same things on live radio/television that you can say in a comedy club or on an album. That goes for everybody, I even gave you an example. If Imus were a comedian performing in a nightclub when he made those comments then this wouldn't be a story. The only reason this is a story is because he made the comments on live radio. I'm not even going to respond to the rest of that garbage you said because if you can't understand this simple concept then there is truly no need to continue this debate.

 

Re: Best Imus take I've read

No, I'm not. considering that the most educated immigrants in this country are Nigerian, far from it.

but to measure the best of the best from other countries that make it here and compare them to African Americans already is is foolish.

You honestly believe if an African American was to set up shop in China he'd be the garden variety street corner Negro?

Of course not. He'd be an educated, goal driven individual who doesn't reflect the make up of his country. My family is Nigerian. I know for a fact that there are a bunch of lazy do nothing folks back home that my goal driven parents left behind. My parents do not reflect the make up of most impoverished Nigerians in the first place. Most immigrants that come to this are of the elites from their respective country. You're better off comparing immigrants to well off and educated black Americans. I could easily compare myself to some shanty town Negro from a 3rd world country and proclaim I'm doing better.

You're doing the equivalent.

 

Re: AWESOME JASON WHITLOCK COLUMN

And the black leaders that "most of America" would listen to would be, who?

 

Fenian that's a good question. It is obvious that Jesse Jackson and/or Al Sharpton aren't. And I also think it is ridiculous that for "black" leaders to be credible, they have to be liberal.

Big Chee --

Knowledge -- Stop trying to split hairs, it really proves the lengths you'll go to try and defend a very ridiculous stance -- Imus is an entertainer. Period. Nothing more, nothing less. A comedian on BET is an entertainer, nothing more, nothing less. Are you saying because you can get away with saying more on BET than on the radio it makes it right? Is that what you are saying? What is wrong is wrong, period.

But just to further prove how much of a fraud you are, let's take it even one step further and make it even more apples to apples for you -- why is it OK for Dave Chappelle to call white people out in the crowd and refer to them as crackers, but the idiot from Seinfeld is forced to apologize for his rant about a black audience member from the same stage?

 

The term cracker doesn't nearly have the connotation the 'n' word does. There's no "history" of violence and degradation behind it. For white people to be offended by something meaningless like that show how out-of-touch they are. It's ridiculous, and insulting to compare a black comedian saying cracker to someone white calling a black person the n-word. What violent and degrading and hate-filled images arise in your head when you hear the world "cracker?"

 

That Zagoshe guy is obviously totally ignorant, it's a waste of time trying to reason with him.

 

Re: AWESOME JASON WHITLOCK COLUMN

How about Jim Brown and Charles Barkley?

http://www.miamiherald.com/609/story/74573.html

 

It's astonishing how Whitlock is considered brave by certain media circles for standing up to the MEDIA APPOINTED and ANNOITED black leadership of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Isn't it ironic?

When was the last time anyone under the age of 50 stood behind Jesse and Al? They have zero and at most fringe influence in the black community. But the media continues to selectively choose those two as our ears to the street.

It disgusts me. And if Whitlock was truly brave, he'd bite the hand that feeds him and criticize those in the media that choose to place their microphones in front of those two.

 

Note to self -- it is OK for black people to use ignorant racist terms for white people, like crackers and honkeys, but if white people use ignorant racist terms for black people, well, then we need to make a federal case out of it because that's just different.

My God that might be the dumbest and most ridiculous rationalization of black racism that I have ever heard. That is just plain ignorant.

 

I'm just wondering -- are black people allowed to use the word spic in reference to Hispanic people because there no real history of violence. How about towel head in reference to arabs? Same thing.

No offense but the more I go back and re-read that post the bigger jackass I realize you are. To say one word is worse than another because it doesn't offend you is just asinine.

 

Racism and it's impact has been dumbed down. Racism at one time was always associated with the power it had to effects lives. Random rants are powerless IMO

Al and Jesse do not speak for me or most of the black community. And honestly, who are the selected choices OD the media whenever the black community is making these grand federal cases as you claim?

The media and their relationship with Al and Jesse go hand and hand. Yet somewhere in the equation, the black community and our bevy of rants finds its way in there.

I find it amazing how you could disregard the medias constant and persistent misuse of our character and collective outcries (which I haven't seen in years) yet habitually use those same misrepresentations as a reflection of our character.

It's totally mindboggling.

 

In Time Big Chee in time.

Jason can't keep a gig - he'll eventually show them his ugly side and they will swiftly bounce him like the rest of his former employers.