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Militia seizes Federal building

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Inky_Wretch, Jan 2, 2016.

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  1. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

    The risks and rewards of the FBI’s strategy remain up for debate. Federal authorities seemed to approach the situation with the goal of not replicating the catastrophes at Waco and Ruby Ridge, where overwhelming force led to many deaths and serious backlash against the federal government. In this case, where the occupiers were specifically alleging an overweening federal government, such a response would have validated that view for many critics. Yet other critics have complained that the hands-off response only emboldened the occupiers. There are calls for thousands more armed “Patriots” to descend on Burns. And after all, it seemed like Cliven Bundy had gotten away with his rebellion in Nevada.

    But it turned out the feds hadn’t given up on nabbing Bundy—they were just waiting patiently for the right moment. Whatever the perverse incentives risked by the wait-’em-out approach, it’s hard not to look at the result in Oregon and be impressed: Every occupier gone, the leaders apprehended and in jail, and only one violent death—and that of a man who had declared his intention to die before being arrested, was reaching for a pocket with a gun, and, according to the testimony of another occupier, crying, “Shoot me!” The difference between the FBI’s hesitation and the hasty resort to force by local police departments in dozens of high-profile shootings over the last year couldn’t be clearer, and might provide a model for how more cops should operate.


    Patience: The FBI's Strategy to End the Oregon Standoff and Nab Cliven Bundy
     
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  2. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Yes, they are. No doubt. But they are far from the average right side of the spectrum. They're extremists, but most on the left are trying to paint anyone on the right with the same brush.
     
  3. Donny in his element

    Donny in his element Well-Known Member

    Broad brushes, you say?
     
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  4. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member


    You also have one Republican Presidential candidate (Trump) going on the Alex Jones show, praising Jones' "common sense."
    Then there's Cruz, humoring Jade Helm nutters.
     
  5. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Not broad at all.
     
  6. Donny in his element

    Donny in his element Well-Known Member

    Jade Helm's a porn star too, right?
     
  7. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member


    Couldn't tell you. I'm not up on those things.
     
  8. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  9. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Cliven was also ordered to be held without bail because nobody believes he would 't try to hole up in his ranch and pull a similar stunt again. This has been a good lesson for militia clowns across the country.
     
  10. Just the facts ma am

    Just the facts ma am Well-Known Member

  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I'm sure no one cares, but the FBI is lying about their actions, and has been since the shooting:

     
  12. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    Those FBI agents should have been in DC working on HRC's emails.
     
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