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Miss California versus Gay Blogger Perez Hilton On Gay Marriage

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by BNWriter, Apr 21, 2009.

  1. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member



    To simpletons like you're all of the above.
     
  2. Pastor

    Pastor Active Member

    One doesn’t equal the other. It is called logic. It is all based on her reasoning. Since her reasoning is based on “how she was raise” aka “culture” then that isn’t a valid reason.

    Who is calling anyone names? If you see a Klan member walk by holding a burning cross it isn’t calling the guy names to point at him and describe him as a racist. If a black guy walks buy with a sign saying, “Kill whitey!” it isn’t calling names to point and describe him as a racist.

    What fear-mongering? Calling bigots out isn’t fear-mongering. Apparently a lot of people are perfectly happy to be bigots, just like Miss Prejean.

    That sentence means nothing. Your attempt to try and turn this superficial individual into some sort of martyr is admirable though.
     
  3. Double J

    Double J Active Member

    Who are you to say what constitutes a valid reason?

    You're the one who has called her a bigot and a dunce, with no justification for either one.

    A bigot by your definition. A dictionary, however, defines a bigot as someone who is "obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance." So, yeah. I don't see Miss Prejean out rallying the troops to stop gay marriage. I don't see her doing or saying anything that could truly be construed as intolerant. If she were, that would certainly be a different story, but she's not. She said she what she believed after being asked what she thought. That in itself is not bigotry. Why should she be "called out" for that? That's fear-mongering.

    Superficial by whose standard? Yours?

    And that sentence means nothing? Oh, okay. Let's see.

    "Liberalism" as defined by Merriam-Webster:

    2. c) a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties.

    "Liberty" as defined by Merriam-Webster:

    1. the quality or state of being free; a) the power to do as one pleases; b) freedom from physical restraint; c) freedom from arbitrary or despotic control; d) the positive enjoyment of various social, political, or economic rights and privileges; e) the power of choice.

    It appears you don't care too much for Miss Prejean's civil liberties, since you don't think she should be allowed to exercise her freedom of choice or her freedom of speech without being labeled a "bigot." That's why I say liberalism - REAL liberalism - seems to be in short supply. Just a lot of horseshit groupthink disguised as "liberalism."
     
  4. Cousin Oliver

    Cousin Oliver New Member

    Are we at that point in the discussion where we're breaking out definitions? Oh my. Damn you Prez Hilton!
     
  5. Double J

    Double J Active Member

    Well, since some people obviously don't know/care what some words mean, definitions would appear to be in order.
     
  6. ScribePharisee

    ScribePharisee New Member

    No she's not. Not in Amerika. There wasn't any "hate" in her speech, but I saw plenty in the reactions. But this is Amerika now.

    All the gays who made up 95 percent of the crowd, according to one of the haters, should be thrilled about her reaction because it actually gave this sliding-into-irrelevancy spectacle some headlines it wouldn't have got otherwise.
     
  7. Pastor

    Pastor Active Member

    She did when she asked to be judged.

    ”opposite marriage” gives me justification for “dunce.” Her opposition to gay marriage gives me justification for the other.

    “Marriage is between a man and a woman.” That is intolerant of those that are women wishing to marry women or men wishing to marry men.

    Oh, I don’t know the fact that she perks up her breasts, shoves Vaseline on her teeth to make them shinier… yeah, nothing superficial there…

    Tolerate my intolerance! I demand you!

    Sorry, no dice.

    She was free to say all that she said. My response to call her a bigot is my free speech. Why do you want to quash my free speech?

    Oh, right. You want the intolerant to remain intolerant.
     
  8. I always love how criticism -- especially harsh, mocking criticism -- is always mistaken for repression by the delicate flowers of the right, who otherwise spend their time mocking the people they say are caught up in "political correctness." It's a perfect storm of stupid, breaking over...

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    ...the great lake of Fail.
     
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  9. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Freedom is speech has never been, is not, and never will be freedom from judgment on the contents of the speech you choose.

    It boggles my mind that there are people who cannot wrap their heads around this idea.
     
  10. ScribePharisee

    ScribePharisee New Member

    In your book, that's only so far as liberals are the ones being the judge. Because after all, they're the experts on everything.
     
  11. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Liar.
     
  12. ScribePharisee

    ScribePharisee New Member

    The proof is in this and every thread that includes pro gay marriage remarks.
     
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