Mississippi police murder major college fooball recruit...maybe

bags - allow me a single example. i have many more, but please allow me to use this one: way back in the day, when i had a minor league beat down that way, bob watson rolled into the PB to do some scouting. he was making a two-day stop. the scoreboard operator, loved him some bob watson and was giddy to play host. on the first night, the SB guy says, "bob, i have some cards i want to show you. i'll bring them tomorrow night." next night, SB guy brings in the cards in two binders and it was an impressive sight ... at least a hundred or so negro league cards. BW says, "these are fantastic. how many do you have?" SB guy says, "oh, i have (X amount) of these n#gger league cards. my grandfather started collecting these n#gger league cards back when the n#gger leagues were in full swing. my father then started collecting n#gger league cards and passed them down to me."

needless to say, i was fucking stunned. i looked around the room, and nobody else was batting an eyelash until i looked at BW. i looked at him like: "WTF?" he just looked at me, rolled his eyes and shook his head a little bit. he obviously was pissed, but he didn't say anything.

the SB guy went on to use the word about another 20 times in the next five minutes and as near as i could tell, that was quite all right with everyone else.

i'm not calling every person in the south a racist, i'm just saying people grow up with different mindsets of what's acceptable and what's not. i can assure you that, at least in the area where i was living, black folks did not have equal footing with whites and weren't treated the same.

and yes, i did see a time to kill, but the client was better.

 

You said what you needed to hear in the second sentence. Way back in the day. Things are a little different down here, these days.

 

Nothing wrong with expressing your opinion.
But don't try telling us that you are "fairly close to the situation", when clearly you have about as much knowledge and observation as the rest of the people on here.
It's bullshit.

 

bags - i'm not going to argue about this because i wasn't taking a shot at you or your family, and i think you're taking it that way.

and back in the day in this instance is 2000.

 

Exactly. Looking at this as objectively as possible, your original post about being "fairly close to the situation" was poorly worded. It suggests more than geography, proximity. And although the second half of your first sentence (about having seen him play a couple of times) was underwhelming support for your claim, I initially gave you the benefit of the doubt that you had some significant insights based on an almost insider-like perspective. It's become obvious this is nothing more than wet-finger psychology.

Yes, you're entitled to your opinion, but you did a poor job of expressing it. You laid a foundation that was so poorly worded, it set up expectations you really can't deliver in your analysis. Calm down, realize you could have written it better, and get over it. Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher was pretty civil in his response (he even said "no offense" or something like that), and you become really defensive about it. Recognize that you did a bad job of weighing in on a serious topic and let it go.

And as many have said, when it comes to suicide, a lot of people judge and have theories and think they know, but you never know what's inside another person's head. You don't have to live there.

 

Three, it's a little different but it still has a ways to go towards equality. Let's take Mississippi for example. When the majority of the public schools are black and the private schools are white and I might add that that the educational quality isn't particularly superior; when the person working with you is "making the same amount" as you are but lives in a nicer neighborhood and drives a better automobile; I could go on with other examples, but please don't paint the south as being utopia. It's far from it.
And for those in the north, don't snicker because the situation holds true there and probably more so.
What happened to this young man is a tragedy and one that shouldn't be ignored. If this had occurred in suburban Baltimore or suburban Newark, I wonder if Yahoo would've gone all out on doing its initial story which didn't bring anything new that news organizations in the area had already reported.
No the south isn't as bad for minorities as it used to be. The things that were once done to keep people of color down aren't as blatantly overt as they once were. Things are done now more covertly.
Just my take.

 

I'm not taking it that way, at all. Maybe it's a generational thing. Old folks. Old ways.

 

Black guy on the website TV interview said he was as concerned over the "lack of support" in the courtroom attendance as anything.
Said something like this might galvanize a region and cause the courthouse to be packed for the grand jury announcement
Instead, there were empty seats here and there.
98 percent of the people there were black, too, which (he said) suggests no one in white community really cared much about an investigation.

 

But three bags said things have changed.

 

No, I'm a product of the Deep South and things a lot of ways are the same.
The mindsets, I', talking about.
Yes, we drink from same fountains (though everyone simply brings along bottled water in this day and age)
Yes, we piss and crap in the same pots.
Yes, we all dine at same restaurants, with no fights breaking out.
But by and large, except for 20 percent of population base, we live in seperate communities and attend seperate churches and "hang out" with our own color.
And education is indeed stratified in populated areas.
Academies are where whites send their kids to school in inner-city Jackson, though there is no academy near Lucedale and all kids, black and white, go to George County High.
15 miles south, East Central High in Hurley, and Vancleave, are "white-flight" areas that took in all the Moss Point and Pascagoula whites who fled there.
Pascagoula High, directly on the coast, is about 70-30 to the black
Moss Point High is about 95-5 to the black
We all work together in Mississippi, but we go home to seperate lifestyles.
Except for 10-20 percent of the people.

 

That ain't just Mississippi, nor the deep south.

 

about 95 percent of what i described came from the mouths of folks at least 10 years older than i.