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MLB 2014 season thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Steak Snabler, Feb 26, 2014.

  1. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Once again, providing proof that you don't even read the posts you attack. I've made my position on this issue very clear many times. You are just among the many who are so desperate to punish anybody who might have ever used anything that you don't care if the innocent get lumped in with the guilty and you certainly don't care about being able to prove what you claim.

    Put so simply that even you might understand, my point is that far too many people on and off this site are accepting rumors and guesswork as fact. A player's power improves or he puts on some muscle and he must have cheated.

    Go bald before turning 30? Steroids.

    Too durable? Steroids

    Too injury prone? Steroids.

    Sometimes it doesn't even take that much. If a guy is simply too good, that is somehow evidence of wrongdoing.

    The process gets even more muddled with fanboys like A_QB, who lob these accusations at anybody who commits the crime of being too good while wearing the enemy uniform. Enough of them make the accusations and a few other fools like yourself suddenly think that is enough to question a player when the source of the accusation was fanboy bitterness, not actual evidence.

    That bugs me. Assuming guilt without having any real evidence at all bugs me. It should bug anybody who ever worked in journalism. And it bugs me even more that some of the idiots believing this crap are Hall of Fame voters and they are desperate to punish anybody who ever faced even the whisper of an accusation, not caring if they leave a deserving player out without good reason.

    That is why I point out the bullshit so many of you try to spread as fact. That is why I was so determined to play devil's advocate even in Ryan Braun's case. Hell, I never liked the guy even before he got busted.

    The other thing that gets lost here is what MLB has done. Time and again, MLB has allowed test results that were supposed to be kept private to leak. They even fired an arbitrator for daring to correctly rule in Braun's favor the first time around. Not correct in that Braun was innocent, but by the letter of the rules. But y'all don't seem to care about the rules or MLB's lack of integrity. Thing is, you can go after the cheats and still expect MLB to act appropriately as well. To suggest otherwise is lazy, at best.
     
  2. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    its not a reach, Has any manager benefited from his players' PED use more than LaRussa? Maybe LaRussa's pitchers benefited from their teammates use of PEDs, but players did not have any institutional control of their teammates. If LaRussa did have institutional control and was intentionally ignorant, at best, his numbers and accomplishments are as tainted as McGwire's, Sosa's, Plameiro's and Bonds'.
     
  3. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    Write more tightly if you are going to deliver another 500-word sermon.
    I value my time on Sunday more than having to plow through that.
    And, dude - get over yourself.
     
  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    You clearly need the help, but you aren't worth the extra few minutes it would have taken to tighten that up. Spare us the excuses. You are trolling again and that means you don't bother to try to comprehend the other side of a discussion.
     
  5. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    That's the thing, 'yab. You don't know if other managers have had more PED users than LaRussa. You are guessing and trying to pass it off as fact. Happens way too much on this subject.
     
  6. NDJournalist

    NDJournalist Active Member

    Former Astros RF Jason Lane, who caught the final out of the 2005 ALCS, starting as a pitcher for the San Diego Padres against the Atlanta Braves tomorrow.
     
  7. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Hey, you wanted the reason. And he made some good points. People on here blame everything including hangnails on PEDs.
     
  8. It's a shame innocent guys like Braun, Clemens, McGwire, and Sosa are tainted by the notion they took PEDs.
     
  9. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    That's intriguing. And I'm surprised that in a Google news search, it doesn't look like anybody really expanded on the story in recent days.

    He threw a couple of games in 2010 and 2011 in Class AAA, but made the full transformation with Sugar Land in the Atlantic League. 17-9 over 2012 and 2013.
     
  10. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Per usual, you miss the point.
     
  11. Lance Armstrong was unfairly crucified, as well, by the uninformed media and public, for thinking he might have cheated.
     
  12. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    No, trying to make forced similes doesn't work either. That's the domain of those who don't have good arguments.
     
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