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MLB 2014 season thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Steak Snabler, Feb 26, 2014.

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  1. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    Will they freeze Jeter's head?
     
    Vombatus, Sep 25, 2014
    #3169
  2. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    There has never been so much slurping over so much quasi-above average in baseball history.
     
    MileHigh, Sep 25, 2014
    #3170
  3. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I've never understood the hate hard-on for the guy.

    That was a nice moment.
     
    LongTimeListener, Sep 25, 2014
    #3171
  4. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    Ugh. Another one who wants to claim Jeter is "above average" or "OK." Disappointed in you Milehigh. Thought you were better than that.
     
    bigpern23, Sep 25, 2014
    #3172
  5. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

    It's Jeter's fault. He's not a Bronco.
     
    Riptide, Sep 25, 2014
    #3173
  6. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    He's just never been a "Wow" player for me. I mean, he's fine. Above fine. But worthy of all this adulation? No. And that's certainly not hating on him. It's just not the lovefest buy-in of the New York production that I think he is.
     
    MileHigh, Sep 25, 2014
    #3174
  7. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    That because he doesn't play in Anaheim.
     
    LongTimeListener, Sep 25, 2014
    #3175
  8. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    I mean, the guy is sixth ALL-TIME in hits. If you think the slurpfest is too much, I get that, but "quasi-above average??"

    Most of Jeter's legacy is not so much centered on statistics as it is "leadership" and "clutch" and championships, which I understand gets a bit of an eye roll from sophisticated fans. But for cripes sakes, he's got more hits than all but five players in the history of Major League Baseball. A few of them have been pretty damn dramatic.

    I guess I'd take a team full of guys you consider "meh" in a heartbeat.
     
    bigpern23, Sep 25, 2014
    #3176
  9. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    And that's fine.

    And his hits total are a product of 20 years of playing. Again, that's fine. Good for him.

    Lots of accumulators over the years. Including him. He just doesn't move the needle for me. His same career in Denver and the Worldwide Slurpleader begins with Redskins-Giants, UCLA-Arizona State and the baseball playoff races, not a meaningless late September game that produced the first sellout at the cathedral in months.
     
    MileHigh, Sep 25, 2014
    #3177
  10. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    If the Rockies had won five championships in the last 20 years, I'm thinking he gets some pub.

    ESPN seemed to take some note of the end of John Elway's career. Peyton Manning receives a bit of attention as well.
     
    LongTimeListener, Sep 25, 2014
    #3178
  11. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    I think I'd like buck to check in here with a number of how many players who have played 20 years in the majors.

    But then again, there's an argument to be made either way.

    If it's a lot, then he became #6 all-time in hits over a lot of other guys who had just as many opportunities.

    And if it's few, then the fact that he has lasted 20 years -- and especially in that fishbowl -- is probably even more remarkable.
     
    jr/shotglass, Sep 26, 2014
    #3179
  12. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    You don't get to 3,000 hits -- let alone 3,500 -- by doing it in 10 or even 15 years. Of the 28 players who have 3,000 hits, only four (Clemente, Boggs, Brock and Carew) did it in less than 20 seasons.
    Of the top 16 on the all-time hits list, Jeter has actually played the fewest number of seasons (20), and that includes the 2013 season in which he only played 17 games before going down for the year with an injury and his 1995 quasi-rookie season in which he only played 15 games.
    If Jeter is an "accumulator" then most of the all-time greats were also "accumulators."
     
    Batman, Sep 26, 2014
    #3180
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