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MLB 2014 season thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Steak Snabler, Feb 26, 2014.

  1. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    The technology is coming. This argument will be obsolete in five years.
     
  2. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Noteworthy to this discussion, Felix got a huge break on the final weekend of the season -- on Saturday, four days after he pitched against Toronto, four earned runs were changed to unearned when MLB (Joe Torre) changed an infield hit to an error on Hernandez.

    If those four runs stay earned, Hernandez finishes at 2.29, and Kluber (2.44) looks better, with the difference more easily attributed to being in more of a hitter's park.
     
  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    That isn't what is being measured here. The writer is attempting to measure the defensive support these two pitchers had and he is using faulty data to do it. That is not a valid approach.

    Even if the current defensive metrics for players and/or teams were valid, it would still be an iffy proposition. He would have to find a way to measure the play of the guys in the field when Hernandez and Kluber pitched. That may not be the same as their level of play over the course of the entire 162 games.

    In other words, better to stick to statistics that actually measure what they claim to measure rather than use faulty data.
     
  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    When the technology and the metrics to properly measure defense exist, I won't be arguing the point any more. Right now, that is not the case.
     
  5. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Not sure that is relevant, unless you are arguing that Torre made the wrong call.
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    It's not relevant that MLB made a curious scoring change four days after the fact that decided the ERA title (Sale finished at 2.17) and will factor in deciding the Cy Young award?

    Christ, you're a fucking tool. Argue just for the sake of arguing.

    #MOP
     
  7. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    I believe some version of a plus-minus system should be incorporated, Bloop.
     
  8. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Once again, you and fart boy both rely on lame insults in a failed attempt to buttress your arguments.

    Once again, you are pushing a conspiracy theory. Once again, you are making arguments you can't back up. Once again, you did not even bother to comprehend the post you are attacking before you responded. I said that I don't think it is relevant unless you are arguing that Torre made the wrong call. Have you even seen the play in question?
     
  9. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

  10. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I did see the play. It is the kind of tweener call you don't change unless you want to change a dozen calls a week.

    Later, MOP.
     
  11. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    There wasn't one fight on this thread all day before Vizzini arrived.
    I want the haters to note that.
     
  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    That is your opinion, and given that you are pushing a conspiracy theory with no facts to back it up, I will give it the lack of consideration it deserves. What reason would Torre have to fix the AL ERA title? It's bad enough when people push PED accusations that they can't support around here. At least those make some sense because the motivation behind the possible act is clear. In this case, what is the gain that would be worth compromising the integrity of the game?
     
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