MLB 2014 season thread

Baseball people would unquestionably want Petit in that situation -- largely because he has so much experience in it. The Giants have cultivated him as a swingman for two years. HIs day-off and pregame routines are entirely different to emphasize that rubber arm.

Nice try, though, Viz.

 

Baseball people want the lesser pitcher? Comical.

You argued that the Giants have depth nobody else would have. Roark was clearly better this season, so that is clearly not true. Now you want to switch your argument to talk about how Petit has been groomed for those situations. That is a better argument, one that I would not have argued. Too bad you didn't make it until after I pointed out the flaw in your initial post.

 

There's no flaw.

Scoreboard.

Is this drunk high school volleyballer again?

 

Vizzini is using a pitcher record and ERA- usually the bluntest little Fisher-Price tools in his kit- to falsely argue who is more valuable under those circumstances.

 

You said the Giants had depth no other team would have. The Nationals had an even better pitcher to turn to in that situation. Sometimes the lesser player comes up big. Accept it along with your flawed point.

 

I used the record along with the record along with the total number of starts to demonstrate that Roark compiled that ERA in a significant role this season. Are you seriously going to argue that Petit was better than Roark this season? Please, continue to demonstrate your ignorance of baseball by doing so.

 

Tanner Roark, in his two-year career, has pitched in the ninth inning or later two times, in a 9-0 win and a 2-0 shutout. Which means that until last night he had never thrown a pitch that could lose the game.

It's kind of funny how people think the Giants are just some happy accident.

 

Why didn't Roark make the post-season rotation then if he was so fucking great?
Gonzalez had a pretty average season- his 105 ERA+ was a titch above the mean for a starter.
But his nerd stats were decent, FWIW in an 0-2 hole.

 

So, you are backing away from trying to argue that Petit was better than Roark this season? That's really all you had to do. Thanks.

By the way, I noticed that you criticize my mention of ERA and a pitcher's record, yet you are more than happy to ignore LTL using a one-game sample as statistically significant. I just can't imagine why you would do that.

 

I agree with LTL's argument that Petit has been organizationally conditioned for this role, which was more persuasive than your fool-brained defense of Roark.
I noticed how you conveniently ignored Fart's assertion that if Roark was all that you claim, he would have dislodged an average Gio Gonzalez from the LDS rotation.

 

The funny thing is if the Giants hadn't scored, they could have gotten one more inning out of Strickland, then gone to Lincecum (who was dominant as a long reliever in 2012), AND they still wouldn't have touched Game 4 starter Vogelsong.

They had 22 or 23 innings' worth of pitching.

 

Ooo, I don't quite know about that, 3OF. Gonzalez would fit into a great many three-man rotations. Really, Roark had a superb season. And any point I made about Petit wasn't in comparison with Roark.

But now that I think about it, who was more devastating this year? Yeah, Petit.