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Mobile Press-Register Alabama beat reporter

Discussion in 'Journalism Jobs' started by Randy Kennedy, Feb 15, 2012.

  1. Point of Order

    Point of Order Active Member

    If you're not mature enough to manage the delicacies of your own job search then you're probably not mature enough to do a good job on this beat. For there will be lots of hiring and firing to cover. And yes, that includes considering your current boss's feelings primarily for the preservation of your own reputation.
     
  2. Editude

    Editude Active Member

    Since it's become an unfortunate trend that some listings preclude unemployed applicants, it's far better to look for a job when you have one. The chilling effect on that, though, when rumors (true or not) when looking around are made semi public is disproportionately negative. For me, this is a classic do-onto-others issue: I won't say anything before a job is taken if you won't.
     
  3. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Humor me for a minute.

    Why hint?

    Your "hint" narrowed the list of possibilities from 10,000 or so to 2.

    What, exactly, is the reasoning behind stopping at 2 and not just going all the way to 1?
     
  4. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    Was a bullshit move. Period.
     
  5. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    This has become an interesting thread to me. I've always been told NOT to tell management of a potential new job until you are giving two week's notice or you have an offer and feel like your current employer might compete to keep you.

    I've always been told that if you perform your job well, then there should be no hard feelings for handling it that way.

    Is this wrong?
     
  6. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Technically, no, in a strictly business sense.
    But I don't see this as a traditional business in any way. I won't treat you any differently, I promise you that. I'd still like to know - helps me prepare in case you do get the job and I will indeed help you if you feel it is the best thing for you.

    I call it common courtesy. "Hey, I don't know what will come of it, but that job in Mobile intrigues me a bit. I think I'm going to look into it."

    Cool, let me know how it progresses and let me know if I can help.

    No, you don't owe me shit, as one of our more blowharded members noted above. But that kind of attitude toward your managers usually shows up in multiple ways. If you have the relationship with your boss you should have, you keep your boss informed.
     
  7. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Exactly. Common courtesy.
     
  8. Charlie Brown

    Charlie Brown Member

    Exactly. Like when the publisher came to me and said, "Hey, just wanted you to know we are laying off the person we hired just before you, cutting pay across the board in a few months and making other changes that will make things here much more difficult for you, and really put you in a no-win situation, so if you still get nibbles, especially between now and when I tell everyone, you might not want to let them pass you by."

    Oh, wait. He didn't. No notice. Boom. Oh. Sorry about that overture you shrugged off a few weeks ago ...
     
  9. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Well-said...

    And if seeing your name on a journalism job board bothers you, you might be too thin-skinned to cover Nick Saban.
     
  10. Rockbottom

    Rockbottom Well-Known Member

    While POO and I have not seen eye to eye on many things over the years, he is DEAD ON here. Carry on.

    rb
     
  11. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    I find it difficult to discuss my personal life with a superior. I feel telling a superior that I'm looking for a new job is personal. I'm paid to do a job to the best of my ability and if I'm doing that, to the satisfaction of my superior, that's all that matters.
    Superiors with enlarged egos may feel the need to know every aspect of their employee's life. However, that's where I draw the line. I wouldn't ask my superiors if they are looking for employment elsewhere and I feel its intrusive for them to ask me about looking elsewhere.
    There are many in this business who, for whatever reason, are vindictive enough to torpedo someone's attempt at finding new employment. That's one reason for my view. Another reason is pretty simple, it's not their business.
    I'd like to add there is no set rule for seeking employment elsewhere. I've been offered jobs when I wasn't looking and I've gotten jobs when I was looking. I've been in positions where I've told superiors of my intentions and I've been in positions where I haven't told them. It's just the way it goes.
    I think the problem on this particular thread is that many feel that the person in Knoxville may have been outed, which isn't right. I see Mizzou's point and while I don't agree with his logic, I do respect it.
    I guess what I'm saying is before you start throwing names out there on a message board, think. You could inadvertently be hurting the applicant more than helping him/her.
     
  12. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Are you married? Single? Gay? Straight? Dating? Wife expecting? Having marital difficulty? Have a kid in trouble? A sick parent?
    Those are all personal things that you don't have to tell me about and I won't ask (though I'm happy to listen and help IF you want).

    Looking for another job? That's professional. It affects me, it affects your colleagues - particularly during these times when we may not get a replacement. Your choice to tell or not. But I will find out one way or another. If you don't think enough of me and the job I'm trying to do and what I do to help you do your job, not telling speaks volumes. Again, I also suspect someone who thinks that way about his/her boss isn't without some other problems.
     
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