Monica Lewinsky back in the news

This would be great fun:

 

He should wait until 2016 to apologize. If he does it now, it's obviously politically calculated to defuse the situation.

His speech at the convention should be 100 percent devoted to this topic. It's the only reasonable way to handle it.

 

Agreed, Boom. Exactly what I was saying, too. Can't just dismiss it, particularly if you otherwise stand with women on these issues.

 

You people just aren't being tolerant.

 

Because of the power dynamics involved.

 

Power dynamics alone do not make a willing woman in her mid-20s a "victim." Hell, power dynamics are entirely why 50-year-old men get younger women in the first place.

And in the environment of the 1990s, such a relationship would not have led to a firing at a large company or just about anywhere else (religious organizations or companies with God-squad owners being the notable exceptions).

 

Yeah, couldn't happen:

 

Huh. That appears to be from 2012. I guess I was unclear with my statement "in the environment of the 1990s."

One of us should try to be more on point.

 

Let's not forget that CLinton was getting BJ's in the office, when he was working.

(And, famously when he was soliciting support for using force in Kosovo

At about 10 p.m., in Ms. Lewinsky's recollection, she was alone in the Chief of Staff's office and the President approached. He invited her to rendezvous again in Mr. Stephanopoulos's office in a few minutes, and she agreed.(156) (Asked if she knew why the President wanted to meet with her, Ms. Lewinsky testified: "I had an idea." They met in Mr. Stephanopoulos's office and went again to the area of the private study. This time the lights in the study were off.

According to Ms. Lewinsky, she and the President kissed. She unbuttoned her jacket; either she unhooked her bra or he lifted her bra up; and he touched her breasts with his hands and mouth. Ms. Lewinsky testified: "I believe he took a phone call . . . and so we moved from the hallway into the back office . . . . [H]e put his hand down my pants and stimulated me manually in the genital area." While the President continued talking on the phone (Ms. Lewinsky understood that the caller was a Member of Congress or a Senator), she performed oral sex on him. He finished his call, and, a moment later, told Ms. Lewinsky to stop. In her recollection: "I told him that I wanted . . . to complete that. And he said . . . that he needed to wait until he trusted me more. And then I think he made a joke . . . that he hadn't had that in a long time.")

He had other subordinates lie on his behalf.

And, the job search for Monica would have gotten him fired as well if he was a CEO.

 

Has it gotten more likely that a CEO would be fired for this kind of behavior?

 

Yes.

You're still ignoring the point. I take that as your acknowledgement that I'm right, since that's usually as far as you can go.

 

LTL, whether it would have generally gotten you fired in the 1990s or not doesn't really matter. It was absolutely wrong. That Lewinsky has been treated the way she's been treated speaks very poorly of many, many people.