Monica Lewinsky back in the news

Five people say Broaddrick told them about the rape immediately after it occurred. A friend and co-worker named Norma Kelsey says that, 21 years ago, she found a dazed Broaddrick with bloodied lip and torn pantyhose in their shared hotel room and Broaddrick explained that Clinton had just raped her. (Clinton is supposed to have bitten her on the lip just before raping her.) Her current husband--then her lover--says Broaddrick told him about the rape within a few days of the event. Broaddrick was, at the time, married to another man, whom she didn't tell about the assault. And three of Broaddrick's friends--one of whom is Kelsey's sister--say she told them about the rape shortly after it supposedly occurred.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/1999/03/is_juanita_broaddrick_telling_the_truth.single.html

 

I can't believe you're comparing oral sex to Keynesian stimulus.

 

Of course, as per usual, you leave out certain parts:

"In 1997, Broaddrick filed an affadavit with Paula Jones' lawyers saying Clinton did not assault her. In 1998, Broaddrick told Kenneth Starr's FBI investigators that she was raped. "

 

From that same article, which Broaddrick do you believe?

The one who "in 1997, Broaddrick filed an affadavit with Paula Jones' lawyers saying Clinton did not assault her. In 1998, Broaddrick told Kenneth Starr's FBI investigators that she was raped."

And in one of the great examples of fact checking, "the National Enquirer paid a lie-detector expert to analyze the videotape and he concluded that she's lying."

But to you, she's telling the absolute truth that she was sexually assaulted, even though she also told lawyers she hadn't been assaulted.

Far more likely is she did have sex with someone in the hotel room. Maybe with the man she was having an affair with. Maybe someone else. For cover, she then lied and told people it was Clinton because she's a serial liar or an attention whore or she believed the bigger the lie, the more likely it would be other people would believe it.

 

Yes. So?

She wanted to stay out of it. That's normal.

Have you done any reading regarding how sexual assault victims behave?

Did Starr's investigators find her credible? She could have been charged with a crime if she lied to them. And, what would she have had to gain from lying? She was humiliated. She didn't want to be involved, and didn't seek to capitalize off of her claims.

 

Could you please tell me how a lie detector expert analyzes a videotape? Is that a field of study?

And, why is your scenario -- which is original, as far as i can tell -- far more likely?

Clinton is a known liar in these instances. Why does he get the benefit of the doubt?

There is a pattern of behavior, and it's Clinton who has exhibited it, right down to the use of false affidavits. That was standard operating procedure for the Bimbo Eruption Team.

 

Starr spent $40 million trying to get something on Clinton. They would have found Pinocchio to be credible.

 

This also is the same Ken Starr, who, only yesterday, in his role as Baylor president, claimed he didn't know how much his football and basketball coaches were making. They're only among the highest paid employees at the school, yet, he said, as school president he didn't know.

Credibility is the least of Starr's worries.

 

Baron, do you believe Bill Clinton did anything wrong?

On a scale of 10 to 1, with 10 being a rapist/sexual predator, and 1 being a true gentleman, where does bill come in?

Was he mildly inappropriate on occasion? Did he misread some signals one or twice, and make an advance that was not welcome?

 

They're both liars. Why you're missing that is why this has gone for 10 pages.

 

With Paula Jones, I suspect he did.

With Willey and Broaddrick, I suspect not.

With Monica, he did, and, while I don't condone it, I don't see why it amounted to attempting to overthrow an elected leader using the method that should only be used for the most serious of crimes.

I'd put him at a 5 on your scale. He's not a gentleman, and he's not a rapist. He's a guy who can't keep his dick in his pants. Which doesn't mean that he should never be allowed to hold a job.

 

Yes, they both lied.

She didn't want to say Bill Clinton had raped her, and neither did he.

That's not unusual.